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Twiggy at 17:07, 7 April 2026

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	"You can do this Gytha Sharp Eyes. You can do this because you are a hero. Because this is ''your'' herb. It belongs to you. And what you do with it is up to you. Can a thane fight with three swords? Well then a warrior doesn't give his sword to his thane does he? He might give her his loyalty, but never his weapon. This herb is in your hands, if you want to be a hero of Wintermark, then now is the time to use what you have. You cannot give this up."		"You can do this Gytha Sharp Eyes. You can do this because you are a hero. Because this is ''your'' herb. It belongs to you. And what you do with it is up to you. Can a thane fight with three swords? Well then a warrior doesn't give his sword to his thane does he? He might give her his loyalty, but never his weapon. This herb is in your hands, if you want to be a hero of Wintermark, then now is the time to use what you have. You cannot give this up."

	She shook her head and the vision vanished. Uhtred was staring at her like a frightened rabbit. "It's alright Uhtred, there are others out looking for herbs. Someone else may well find some more ~~True Vervain~~ in time" she lied glibly. "But we must act now. You must act. You can do this, I know you can. Because you are a hero..."		She shook her head and the vision vanished. Uhtred was staring at her like a frightened rabbit. "It's alright Uhtred, there are others out looking for herbs. Someone else may well find some more true vervain in time" she lied glibly. "But we must act now. You must act. You can do this, I know you can. Because you are a hero..."
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	<div style="float:right; width: 500px; clear: right; margin-left: 20px;">{{SOP\|statement=Asny of Storm Spire, the head healer of the Mark, does great work supporting our warriors and keeping them alive, but there are not enough herbs to go with all of our warriors. We recognise this good work that she is doing and call on all of the Wintermark, but especially those who live in the lush green marshes of Kallavesa, to gather all the herbs they can, to harvest from the hidden herb groves, to be able to provide more herbs to the head healer so that they can save more lives.\|by=Pahkina, The Wintermark National\|when=Autumn Equinox 383YE\|vote= with a greater majority 223-0}}</div>		<div style="float:right; width: 500px; clear: right; margin-left: 20px;">{{SOP\|statement=Asny of Storm Spire, the head healer of the Mark, does great work supporting our warriors and keeping them alive, but there are not enough herbs to go with all of our warriors. We recognise this good work that she is doing and call on all of the Wintermark, but especially those who live in the lush green marshes of Kallavesa, to gather all the herbs they can, to harvest from the hidden herb groves, to be able to provide more herbs to the head healer so that they can save more lives.\|by=Pahkina, The Wintermark National\|when=Autumn Equinox 383YE\|vote= with a greater majority 223-0}}</div>
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	* '''There are four sinecures and a great work in Hahnmark that provide herbs'''		* '''There are four sinecures and a great work in Hahnmark that provide herbs'''
	* '''A senate motion could be used to amend the sinecure titles to make it clearer what their purpose is'''		* '''A senate motion could be used to amend the sinecure titles to make it clearer what their purpose is'''
	There are four existing [[sinecure\|sinecures]] that provide healing herbs to the people of Wintermark. The [[Gatekeeper of Falling Snow]] receives a bounty of a dozen [[Cerulean Mazzarine]] each season from the hot-spring warmed [[Gatekeeper_of_Falling_Snow#The_Garden_of_Falling_Snow\|Garden of Falling Snow]] in [[Hahnmark#Kalpamark\|Kalpamark]]; the [[Herbalist of the Hearth]] receives a bounty of herbs from the [[Herbalist_of_the_Hearth#The_Valley_of_Pride\|Valley of Pride]], near Hendle Hearth; and the [[Guardian of Dunfrith]] likewise gains a harvest of herbs from the [[Guardian_of_Dunfrith#Dunfirth\|Forest of Dunfirth]] near Dunhearth Hall.		There are four existing [[sinecure\|sinecures]] that provide healing herbs to the people of Wintermark. The [[Gatekeeper of Falling Snow]] receives a bounty of a dozen [[Cerulean Mazzarine\|cerulean mazzarine]] each season from the hot-spring warmed [[Gatekeeper_of_Falling_Snow#The_Garden_of_Falling_Snow\|Garden of Falling Snow]] in [[Hahnmark#Kalpamark\|Kalpamark]]; the [[Herbalist of the Hearth]] receives a bounty of herbs from the [[Herbalist_of_the_Hearth#The_Valley_of_Pride\|Valley of Pride]], near Hendle Hearth; and the [[Guardian of Dunfrith]] likewise gains a harvest of herbs from the [[Guardian_of_Dunfrith#Dunfirth\|Forest of Dunfirth]] near Dunhearth Hall.

	There is also the [[Master Apothecary]], who receives herbs each season from the [[Master_Apothecary#The_Master_Apothecary.27s_Garden\|Master Apothecary's Garden]] in southern Kalpamark. Unlike the previous three sinecures, the Master Apothecary is expected to use the herbs provided by the sinecure to create [[potion\|potions]] of use by Imperial troops. Assuming the current Master Apothecary, Kesa Algarsdottir, takes those responsibilities seriously, then that approach represents something that could be adopted for other sinecures and similar Imperial titles?		There is also the [[Master Apothecary]], who receives herbs each season from the [[Master_Apothecary#The_Master_Apothecary.27s_Garden\|Master Apothecary's Garden]] in southern Kalpamark. Unlike the previous three sinecures, the Master Apothecary is expected to use the herbs provided by the sinecure to create [[potion\|potions]] of use by Imperial troops. Assuming the current Master Apothecary, Kesa Algarsdottir, takes those responsibilities seriously, then that approach represents something that could be adopted for other sinecures and similar Imperial titles?
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	<table><tr><td style="background-color: LightBlue;">Total Money Spent</td><td style="background-color: LightBlue;">Production</td></tr>		<table><tr><td style="background-color: LightBlue;">Total Money Spent</td><td style="background-color: LightBlue;">Production</td></tr>
	<tr><td>7 Crowns</td><td>6 doses of ~~True Vervain~~, 4 doses each of ~~Bladeroot~~ and ~~Marrowort~~, 2 doses of Imperial ~~Roseweald~~</td></tr>		<tr><td>7 Crowns</td><td>6 doses of true vervain, 4 doses each of bladeroot and marrowort, 2 doses of Imperial roseweald</td></tr>
	<tr><td>17 Crowns</td><td>13 doses of ~~True Vervain~~, 8 doses each of ~~Bladeroot~~ and ~~Marrowort~~, 4 doses of Imperial ~~Roseweald~~</td></tr>		<tr><td>17 Crowns</td><td>13 doses of true vervain, 8 doses each of bladeroot and marrowort, 4 doses of Imperial roseweald</td></tr>
	<tr><td>30 Crowns</td><td>20 doses of ~~True Vervain~~, 12 doses each of ~~Bladeroot~~ and ~~Marrowort~~, 6 doses of Imperial ~~Roseweald~~</td></tr>		<tr><td>30 Crowns</td><td>20 doses of true vervain, 12 doses each of bladeroot and marrowort, 6 doses of Imperial roseweald</td></tr>
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	The result would be similar to a [[great work]] that enhanced every [[herb garden]] in Kallavesa, but with some key differences. Each season the commission would provide a total of 90 doses of random herbs shared between every Wintermark herb garden in Kallavesa. However, Elina's proposal goes further. They propose that an [[Imperial title]] be created to oversee the Healing House of Wittal Grove, not only to purchase surplus herbs from the grimnir who visited (as a [[ministry]]), but also to allow the herbalists of Kallavesa to respond to the needs of the heroes of Wintermark.		The result would be similar to a [[great work]] that enhanced every [[herb garden]] in Kallavesa, but with some key differences. Each season the commission would provide a total of 90 doses of random herbs shared between every Wintermark herb garden in Kallavesa. However, Elina's proposal goes further. They propose that an [[Imperial title]] be created to oversee the Healing House of Wittal Grove, not only to purchase surplus herbs from the grimnir who visited (as a [[ministry]]), but also to allow the herbalists of Kallavesa to respond to the needs of the heroes of Wintermark.

	The ''Grimnir of Wittal Grove'', could have the power of [[Senate_announcement\|announcement]] in the Imperial Senate, allowing them to declare one healing herb that should be prioritised by the herb masters of Kallavesa. If they selected [[True Vervain]], [[~~Bladeroot~~]], [[~~Marrowort~~]], or [[Imperial Roseweald]] the entire 90 herb bounty would be of this type. If they picked [[Cerulean Mazzarine]] - a herb that struggles to prosper in Wintermark, even in the relatively temperate climate of Kallavesa - then the bounty would be reduced to 45 herbs but again, every herb garden would benefit from added production of the rare healing herb. The ''Grimnir of Wittal Grove'' would only need to make an announcement to ''change'' the herb, either to a specific type or to return to no particular herbal focus. Once the announcement was made it would continue until another change was made.		The ''Grimnir of Wittal Grove'', could have the power of [[Senate_announcement\|announcement]] in the Imperial Senate, allowing them to declare one healing herb that should be prioritised by the herb masters of Kallavesa. If they selected [[True Vervain\|true vervain]], [[bladeroot]], [[marrowort]], or [[Imperial Roseweald\|Imperial roseweald]] the entire 90 herb bounty would be of this type. If they picked [[Cerulean Mazzarine\|cerulean mazzarine]] - a herb that struggles to prosper in Wintermark, even in the relatively temperate climate of Kallavesa - then the bounty would be reduced to 45 herbs but again, every herb garden would benefit from added production of the rare healing herb. The ''Grimnir of Wittal Grove'' would only need to make an announcement to ''change'' the herb, either to a specific type or to return to no particular herbal focus. Once the announcement was made it would continue until another change was made.

	Elina requests that in recognition of the traditional roots of the Healing House, and the history of Wital Grove, the Senate specify that the title of "Grimnir of Wittal Grove" is intended specifically to be held by a ''grimnir''. If they do so then a number of halls are prepared to contribute assistance to completing the commission, and it would not count towards the [[Commission#Maximum_Commissions_Available\|limit]] on the number of [[commission\|commissions]].		Elina requests that in recognition of the traditional roots of the Healing House, and the history of Wital Grove, the Senate specify that the title of "Grimnir of Wittal Grove" is intended specifically to be held by a ''grimnir''. If they do so then a number of halls are prepared to contribute assistance to completing the commission, and it would not count towards the [[Commission#Maximum_Commissions_Available\|limit]] on the number of [[commission\|commissions]].
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	* '''Wintermark would need to create an Imperial title for Asny, if they want her position to be recognised and acknowledged across Wintermark'''		* '''Wintermark would need to create an Imperial title for Asny, if they want her position to be recognised and acknowledged across Wintermark'''
	* '''The healers and herbalists propose a title of Woundbinder of the Mark to benefit from a commission that would require 16 wains of white granite and 32 crowns to commission'''		* '''The healers and herbalists propose a title of Woundbinder of the Mark to benefit from a commission that would require 16 wains of white granite and 32 crowns to commission'''
	* '''The sinecure would produce 10 doses of true vervain, 4 doses of bladeroot, 4 doses of Imperial ~~Roseweald~~, 4 doses of ~~Marrowort~~ and 2 doses of ~~realms root~~'''		* '''The sinecure would produce 10 doses of true vervain, 4 doses of bladeroot, 4 doses of Imperial roseweald, 4 doses of marrowort and 2 doses of realmsroot'''
	* '''If given the responsibility to lead by example and tend the wounded heroes of Wintermark, the title would also be able to buy herbs'''		* '''If given the responsibility to lead by example and tend the wounded heroes of Wintermark, the title would also be able to buy herbs'''

	Finally healers and herbalists consider the issue of how they might help Asny. People are keen to support Asny - but many are at pains to point out that if she is inspiring the healers of ~~wintermark~~ and using all her herbs to save Wintermark heroes then her efforts should be ''properly'' recognised and supported. They propose that Wintermark commission a vibrant new herb garden to be built just outside [[Kallavesa#Kallavesa_Marsh\|Masi in the Kallavesa Marsh]]. They've examined the ruins of Hufi Villesdottir's old estate and apparently it would be ideal for such a purpose. Years ago, Hufi was a well liked healer and apothecary, who took up the grimnir's life after swearing off the path of the Icewalker. According to the scop's tales, Hufi, was as thick as thieves with a Spring eternal she called Swift Ears, and she would often riddle with this creature for access to more herbs. Her garden fell to ruin after her death, becoming so overgrown that within days it was difficult to enter. A touch of Spring clearly remains to this day - but it could be tamed and set to serve whoever was appointed to benefit from it.		Finally healers and herbalists consider the issue of how they might help Asny. People are keen to support Asny - but many are at pains to point out that if she is inspiring the healers of Wintermark and using all her herbs to save Wintermark heroes then her efforts should be ''properly'' recognised and supported. They propose that Wintermark commission a vibrant new herb garden to be built just outside [[Kallavesa#Kallavesa_Marsh\|Masi in the Kallavesa Marsh]]. They've examined the ruins of Hufi Villesdottir's old estate and apparently it would be ideal for such a purpose. Years ago, Hufi was a well liked healer and apothecary, who took up the grimnir's life after swearing off the path of the Icewalker. According to the scop's tales, Hufi, was as thick as thieves with a Spring eternal she called Swift Ears, and she would often riddle with this creature for access to more herbs. Her garden fell to ruin after her death, becoming so overgrown that within days it was difficult to enter. A touch of Spring clearly remains to this day - but it could be tamed and set to serve whoever was appointed to benefit from it.
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	The commission would not be simple, the garden is overgrown and would need a lot of work. It would require 16 wains of white granite and 32 crowns and use one of the Empire's limited commissions. However once complete the garden would provide a bounty of 10 doses of true vervain, 4 doses of bladeroot, 4 doses of Imperial ~~Roseweald~~, 4 doses of ~~Marrowort~~ each season, In addition it would produce 2 doses of rare ~~realms root~~ and who knows when they might come in useful?		The commission would not be simple, the garden is overgrown and would need a lot of work. It would require 16 wains of white granite and 32 crowns and use one of the Empire's limited commissions. However once complete the garden would provide a bounty of 10 doses of true vervain, 4 doses of bladeroot, 4 doses of Imperial roseweald, 4 doses of marrowort each season, In addition it would produce 2 doses of rare realmsroot and who knows when they might come in useful?

	Crucially if the sinecure were commissioned and built this season or next (commissioned before the end of the Spring Equinox 384YE), and the accompanying Imperial title given responsibility to inspire the grimnir and healers of the nation and ensure the wounded heroes of Wintermark are tended to, then they would pledge to support it as they have offered to do with the other Wintermark herb sinecures. The Woundbinder of the Mark, in addition to the herbs provided by the Hufi's Garden would be able to buy additional herbs to supplement their own. Grateful Wintermark heroes could pay the Woundbinder whatever coin they could spare, and Asny (or whoever was appointed to the position) could then use the money to acquire the herbs needed to save lives.		Crucially if the sinecure were commissioned and built this season or next (commissioned before the end of the Spring Equinox 384YE), and the accompanying Imperial title given responsibility to inspire the grimnir and healers of the nation and ensure the wounded heroes of Wintermark are tended to, then they would pledge to support it as they have offered to do with the other Wintermark herb sinecures. The Woundbinder of the Mark, in addition to the herbs provided by the Hufi's Garden would be able to buy additional herbs to supplement their own. Grateful Wintermark heroes could pay the Woundbinder whatever coin they could spare, and Asny (or whoever was appointed to the position) could then use the money to acquire the herbs needed to save lives.

Matt: Text replacement - "[[Imperial Senate" to "[[Senate"

2026-01-15T12:28:11Z

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	* '''Any amended titles would need to be appointed annually starting at the Spring Equinox, the next event'''		* '''Any amended titles would need to be appointed annually starting at the Spring Equinox, the next event'''

	The Garden of Falling Snow, the Valley of Pride, and the Forest of Dunfirth between them provide more than fifty doses of herbs each season. Yet the titles that oversee them have no responsibility to use that bounty for the benefit of Wintermark. The [[~~Imperial~~ Senate]] could use a [[senate motion]] to amend these titles, making it clear that the position brings with it a responsibility to use the benefits it provides to support the heroes of Wintermark, much as the Master Apothecary currently does.		The Garden of Falling Snow, the Valley of Pride, and the Forest of Dunfirth between them provide more than fifty doses of herbs each season. Yet the titles that oversee them have no responsibility to use that bounty for the benefit of Wintermark. The [[Senate]] could use a [[senate motion]] to amend these titles, making it clear that the position brings with it a responsibility to use the benefits it provides to support the heroes of Wintermark, much as the Master Apothecary currently does.
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	The statement of principle proposed by Pahkina calls especially upon "''those who live in the lush green marshes of Kallavesa, to gather all the herbs they can, to harvest from the hidden herb groves''." This likewise causes some comment - not least because only a year ago, in Winter 382YE, a [[bearer of an Imperial Wayleave]] created [[Hahnmark#Freya's Garden\|Freya's Garden]] in Hahnmark, a [[great work]] that improves the bounty of herbs harvested by gardens across the [[territory]]. Why call on the citizens of Kallavesa specifically, when it is the people of chilly, mountainous Hahnmark that have received this beneficence?		The statement of principle proposed by Pahkina calls especially upon "''those who live in the lush green marshes of Kallavesa, to gather all the herbs they can, to harvest from the hidden herb groves''." This likewise causes some comment - not least because only a year ago, in Winter 382YE, a [[bearer of an Imperial Wayleave]] created [[Hahnmark#Freya's Garden\|Freya's Garden]] in Hahnmark, a [[great work]] that improves the bounty of herbs harvested by gardens across the [[territory]]. Why call on the citizens of Kallavesa specifically, when it is the people of chilly, mountainous Hahnmark that have received this beneficence?

	Once the initial confusion passes, constructive discussion begins. If Wintermark wishes the herbalists and the healers of Kallavesa to have more healing herbs, then one way to achieve that is to recognise the bounty of the marshes and offer substantive aid to the people of the territory. Either the [[~~Imperial~~ Senate]], or the [[bearer of an Imperial Wayleave]], could commission a great work in Kallavesa to improve the production of every herb garden. Some of the grimnir in Kallavesa have even come forward to suggest an appropriate location for such a great work.		Once the initial confusion passes, constructive discussion begins. If Wintermark wishes the herbalists and the healers of Kallavesa to have more healing herbs, then one way to achieve that is to recognise the bounty of the marshes and offer substantive aid to the people of the territory. Either the [[Senate]], or the [[bearer of an Imperial Wayleave]], could commission a great work in Kallavesa to improve the production of every herb garden. Some of the grimnir in Kallavesa have even come forward to suggest an appropriate location for such a great work.
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Twiggy at 14:20, 29 July 2025

2025-07-29T14:20:42Z

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	If the title is an honorific, like Thanes Council, or Head Healer of Wintermark, then it doesn't need to follow any particular rules. But it can't have any legal powers and it won't have a wider existence in the setting - nobody outside Anvil will know what honorific positions the players have given each other. It matters to the characters at Anvil - but not to the rest of the nation who don't go to Anvil.		If the title is an honorific, like Thanes Council, or Head Healer of Wintermark, then it doesn't need to follow any particular rules. But it can't have any legal powers and it won't have a wider existence in the setting - nobody outside Anvil will know what honorific positions the players have given each other. It matters to the characters at Anvil - but not to the rest of the nation who don't go to Anvil.

	Finally, as [[#Helping Asny\|part of this wind of fortune]] we've created an opportunity for players to change an honorific position into an Imperial title ''if they wish to go that route''. We've done something similar with the ''Runesmith'' as part of the [[Conduit_to_destiny#The_Runesmith\|Runegrott opportunity]] and the ''Speaker ~~for~~ the Crows'' with [[Old_ways#~~Speaker_for_the_Crows~~\|Rund's Hall]]. As part of that we've suggested what we think is a thematic Wintermark-inspired name for the title. That's because you ''cannot'' create an Imperial title called the "Head Healer of Wintermark" because that would strongly imply that whoever was appointed was in charge of the other healers. That is not constitutional in Empire - you can do a lot of things in Empire but you can't put one character directly in charge of other characters. We deliberately rule out names like this to try to ensure that we avoid the risk of players feeling like they need another character's permission to do something before they act.		Finally, as [[#Helping Asny\|part of this wind of fortune]] we've created an opportunity for players to change an honorific position into an Imperial title ''if they wish to go that route''. We've done something similar with the ''Runesmith'' as part of the [[Conduit_to_destiny#The_Runesmith\|Runegrott opportunity]] and the ''Speaker of the Crows'' with [[Old_ways#Speaker_of_the_Crows\|Rund's Hall]]. As part of that we've suggested what we think is a thematic Wintermark-inspired name for the title. That's because you ''cannot'' create an Imperial title called the "Head Healer of Wintermark" because that would strongly imply that whoever was appointed was in charge of the other healers. That is not constitutional in Empire - you can do a lot of things in Empire but you can't put one character directly in charge of other characters. We deliberately rule out names like this to try to ensure that we avoid the risk of players feeling like they need another character's permission to do something before they act.

	==Resolution==		==Resolution==

Emmanovi: sp

2022-07-24T18:05:37Z

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	The result would be similar to a [[great work]] that enhanced every [[herb garden]] in Kallavesa, but with some key differences. Each season the commission would provide a total of 90 doses of random herbs shared between every Wintermark herb garden in Kallavesa. However, Elina's proposal goes further. They propose that an [[Imperial title]] be created to oversee the Healing House of Wittal Grove, not only to purchase surplus herbs from the grimnir who visited (as a [[ministry]]), but also to allow the herbalists of Kallavesa to respond to the needs of the heroes of Wintermark.		The result would be similar to a [[great work]] that enhanced every [[herb garden]] in Kallavesa, but with some key differences. Each season the commission would provide a total of 90 doses of random herbs shared between every Wintermark herb garden in Kallavesa. However, Elina's proposal goes further. They propose that an [[Imperial title]] be created to oversee the Healing House of Wittal Grove, not only to purchase surplus herbs from the grimnir who visited (as a [[ministry]]), but also to allow the herbalists of Kallavesa to respond to the needs of the heroes of Wintermark.

	The ''Grimnir of Wittal Grove'', could have the power of [[Senate_announcement\|announcement]] in the Imperial Senate, allowing them to declare one healing herb that should be ~~prioritized~~ by the herb masters of Kallavesa. If they selected [[True Vervain]], [[Bladeroot]], [[Marrowort]], or [[Imperial Roseweald]] the entire 90 herb bounty would be of this type. If they picked [[Cerulean Mazzarine]] - a herb that struggles to prosper in Wintermark, even in the relatively temperate climate of Kallavesa - then the bounty would be reduced to 45 herbs but again, every herb garden would benefit from added production of the rare healing herb. The ''Grimnir of Wittal Grove'' would only need to make an announcement to ''change'' the herb, either to a specific type or to return to no particular herbal focus. Once the announcement was made it would continue until another change was made.		The ''Grimnir of Wittal Grove'', could have the power of [[Senate_announcement\|announcement]] in the Imperial Senate, allowing them to declare one healing herb that should be prioritised by the herb masters of Kallavesa. If they selected [[True Vervain]], [[Bladeroot]], [[Marrowort]], or [[Imperial Roseweald]] the entire 90 herb bounty would be of this type. If they picked [[Cerulean Mazzarine]] - a herb that struggles to prosper in Wintermark, even in the relatively temperate climate of Kallavesa - then the bounty would be reduced to 45 herbs but again, every herb garden would benefit from added production of the rare healing herb. The ''Grimnir of Wittal Grove'' would only need to make an announcement to ''change'' the herb, either to a specific type or to return to no particular herbal focus. Once the announcement was made it would continue until another change was made.

	Elina requests that in recognition of the traditional roots of the Healing House, and the history of Wital Grove, the Senate specify that the title of "Grimnir of Wittal Grove" is intended specifically to be held by a ''grimnir''. If they do so then a number of halls are prepared to contribute assistance to completing the commission, and it would not count towards the [[Commission#Maximum_Commissions_Available\|limit]] on the number of [[commission\|commissions]].		Elina requests that in recognition of the traditional roots of the Healing House, and the history of Wital Grove, the Senate specify that the title of "Grimnir of Wittal Grove" is intended specifically to be held by a ''grimnir''. If they do so then a number of halls are prepared to contribute assistance to completing the commission, and it would not count towards the [[Commission#Maximum_Commissions_Available\|limit]] on the number of [[commission\|commissions]].
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	==Helping Asny==		==Helping Asny==
	* '''Wintermark would need to create an Imperial title for Asny, if they want her position to be ~~recognized~~ and acknowledged across Wintermark'''		* '''Wintermark would need to create an Imperial title for Asny, if they want her position to be recognised and acknowledged across Wintermark'''
	* '''The healers and herbalists propose a title of Woundbinder of the Mark to benefit from a commission that would require 16 wains of white granite and 32 crowns to commission'''		* '''The healers and herbalists propose a title of Woundbinder of the Mark to benefit from a commission that would require 16 wains of white granite and 32 crowns to commission'''
	* '''The sinecure would produce 10 doses of true vervain, 4 doses of bladeroot, 4 doses of Imperial Roseweald, 4 doses of Marrowort and 2 doses of realms root'''		* '''The sinecure would produce 10 doses of true vervain, 4 doses of bladeroot, 4 doses of Imperial Roseweald, 4 doses of Marrowort and 2 doses of realms root'''
	* '''If given the responsibility to lead by example and tend the wounded heroes of Wintermark, the title would also be able to buy herbs'''		* '''If given the responsibility to lead by example and tend the wounded heroes of Wintermark, the title would also be able to buy herbs'''

	Finally healers and herbalists consider the issue of how they might help Asny. People are keen to support Asny - but many are at pains to point out that if she is inspiring the healers of wintermark and using all her herbs to save Wintermark heroes then her efforts should be ''properly'' ~~recognized~~ and supported. They propose that Wintermark commission a vibrant new herb garden to be built just outside [[Kallavesa#Kallavesa_Marsh\|Masi in the Kallavesa Marsh]]. They've examined the ruins of Hufi Villesdottir's old estate and apparently it would be ideal for such a purpose. Years ago, Hufi was a well liked healer and apothecary, who took up the grimnir's life after swearing off the path of the Icewalker. According to the scop's tales, Hufi, was as thick as thieves with a Spring eternal she called Swift Ears, and she would often riddle with this creature for access to more herbs. Her garden fell to ruin after her death, becoming so overgrown that within days it was difficult to enter. A touch of Spring clearly remains to this day - but it could be tamed and set to serve whoever was appointed to benefit from it.		Finally healers and herbalists consider the issue of how they might help Asny. People are keen to support Asny - but many are at pains to point out that if she is inspiring the healers of wintermark and using all her herbs to save Wintermark heroes then her efforts should be ''properly'' recognised and supported. They propose that Wintermark commission a vibrant new herb garden to be built just outside [[Kallavesa#Kallavesa_Marsh\|Masi in the Kallavesa Marsh]]. They've examined the ruins of Hufi Villesdottir's old estate and apparently it would be ideal for such a purpose. Years ago, Hufi was a well liked healer and apothecary, who took up the grimnir's life after swearing off the path of the Icewalker. According to the scop's tales, Hufi, was as thick as thieves with a Spring eternal she called Swift Ears, and she would often riddle with this creature for access to more herbs. Her garden fell to ruin after her death, becoming so overgrown that within days it was difficult to enter. A touch of Spring clearly remains to this day - but it could be tamed and set to serve whoever was appointed to benefit from it.
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Novemberalice: /* Healing House of Wittal Grove */

2022-06-14T10:02:51Z

Healing House of Wittal Grove

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	The result would be similar to a [[great work]] that enhanced every [[herb garden]] in Kallavesa, but with some key differences. Each season the commission would provide a total of 90 doses of random herbs shared between every Wintermark herb garden in Kallavesa. However, Elina's proposal goes further. They propose that an [[Imperial title]] be created to oversee the Healing House of Wittal Grove, not only to purchase surplus herbs from the grimnir who visited (as a [[ministry]]), but also to allow the herbalists of Kallavesa to respond to the needs of the heroes of Wintermark.		The result would be similar to a [[great work]] that enhanced every [[herb garden]] in Kallavesa, but with some key differences. Each season the commission would provide a total of 90 doses of random herbs shared between every Wintermark herb garden in Kallavesa. However, Elina's proposal goes further. They propose that an [[Imperial title]] be created to oversee the Healing House of Wittal Grove, not only to purchase surplus herbs from the grimnir who visited (as a [[ministry]]), but also to allow the herbalists of Kallavesa to respond to the needs of the heroes of Wintermark.

	The ''Grimnir of ~~Wital~~ Grove'', could have the power of [[Senate_announcement\|announcement]] in the Imperial Senate, allowing them to declare one healing herb that should be prioritized by the herb masters of Kallavesa. If they selected [[True Vervain]], [[Bladeroot]], [[Marrowort]], or [[Imperial Roseweald]] the entire 90 herb bounty would be of this type. If they picked [[Cerulean Mazzarine]] - a herb that struggles to prosper in Wintermark, even in the relatively temperate climate of Kallavesa - then the bounty would be reduced to 45 herbs but again, every herb garden would benefit from added production of the rare healing herb. The ''Grimnir of ~~Wital~~ Grove'' would only need to make an announcement to ''change'' the herb, either to a specific type or to return to no particular herbal focus. Once the announcement was made it would continue until another change was made.		The ''Grimnir of Wittal Grove'', could have the power of [[Senate_announcement\|announcement]] in the Imperial Senate, allowing them to declare one healing herb that should be prioritized by the herb masters of Kallavesa. If they selected [[True Vervain]], [[Bladeroot]], [[Marrowort]], or [[Imperial Roseweald]] the entire 90 herb bounty would be of this type. If they picked [[Cerulean Mazzarine]] - a herb that struggles to prosper in Wintermark, even in the relatively temperate climate of Kallavesa - then the bounty would be reduced to 45 herbs but again, every herb garden would benefit from added production of the rare healing herb. The ''Grimnir of Wittal Grove'' would only need to make an announcement to ''change'' the herb, either to a specific type or to return to no particular herbal focus. Once the announcement was made it would continue until another change was made.

	Elina requests that in recognition of the traditional roots of the Healing House, and the history of Wital Grove, the Senate specify that the title of "Grimnir of ~~Wital~~ Grove" is intended specifically to be held by a ''grimnir''. If they do so then a number of halls are prepared to contribute assistance to completing the commission, and it would not count towards the [[Commission#Maximum_Commissions_Available\|limit]] on the number of [[commission\|commissions]].		Elina requests that in recognition of the traditional roots of the Healing House, and the history of Wital Grove, the Senate specify that the title of "Grimnir of Wittal Grove" is intended specifically to be held by a ''grimnir''. If they do so then a number of halls are prepared to contribute assistance to completing the commission, and it would not count towards the [[Commission#Maximum_Commissions_Available\|limit]] on the number of [[commission\|commissions]].

	This opportunity is available only until the end of the Winter Solstice 383YE; the urgency of the call for more herbs will have faded after that point along with interest in the Healing House.		This opportunity is available only until the end of the Winter Solstice 383YE; the urgency of the call for more herbs will have faded after that point along with interest in the Healing House.

Rafferty: /* Resolution */

2022-05-16T13:21:43Z

Resolution

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	==Resolution==		==Resolution==
	The Imperial Senate [[Construct_Healing_House_of_Wittal_Grove\|commissioned the Healing House of Wittal Grove]] but ~~chose not to create a title~~ to ~~oversee it. As such it will only function as a great work, and counts against the Senate's limited number of commissions~~.		The Imperial Senate [[Construct_Healing_House_of_Wittal_Grove\|commissioned the Healing House of Wittal Grove]] during the Winter Solstice, but there were [[Construct_Healing_House_of_Wittal_Grove#Constitution\|significant problems]] with the motion. The Constitutional Court is working to resolve these issues.

	==Further Reading==		==Further Reading==
	* [[Wintermark_military_concerns#Grimnir\|Grimnir]]		* [[Wintermark_military_concerns#Grimnir\|Grimnir]]

Rafferty: /* Resolution */

2022-05-16T12:26:38Z

Resolution

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	==Resolution==		==Resolution==
	The Imperial Senate [[Construct_Healing_House_of_Wittal_Grove\|commissioned the Healing House of Wittal Grove]] but chose not to create a title to oversee it. As such it will only function as a great work.		The Imperial Senate [[Construct_Healing_House_of_Wittal_Grove\|commissioned the Healing House of Wittal Grove]] but chose not to create a title to oversee it. As such it will only function as a great work, and counts against the Senate's limited number of commissions.

	==Further Reading==		==Further Reading==
	* [[Wintermark_military_concerns#Grimnir\|Grimnir]]		* [[Wintermark_military_concerns#Grimnir\|Grimnir]]

Rafferty: /* Further Reading */

2022-05-16T12:22:06Z

Hailmur: /* Healing House of Wittal Grove */

2022-05-05T10:16:07Z

Healing House of Wittal Grove

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	The result would be similar to a [[great work]] that enhanced every [[herb garden]] in Kallavesa, but with some key differences. Each season the commission would provide a total of 90 doses of random herbs shared between every Wintermark herb garden in Kallavesa. However, Elina's proposal goes further. They propose that an [[Imperial title]] be created to oversee the Healing House of Wittal Grove, not only to purchase surplus herbs from the grimnir who visited (as a [[ministry]]), but also to allow the herbalists of Kallavesa to respond to the needs of the heroes of Wintermark.		The result would be similar to a [[great work]] that enhanced every [[herb garden]] in Kallavesa, but with some key differences. Each season the commission would provide a total of 90 doses of random herbs shared between every Wintermark herb garden in Kallavesa. However, Elina's proposal goes further. They propose that an [[Imperial title]] be created to oversee the Healing House of Wittal Grove, not only to purchase surplus herbs from the grimnir who visited (as a [[ministry]]), but also to allow the herbalists of Kallavesa to respond to the needs of the heroes of Wintermark.

	The ''Grimnir of Wital Grove'', could have the power of [[Senate_announcement\|announcement]] in the Imperial Senate, allowing them to declare one healing herb that should be prioritized by the herb masters of Kallavesa. If they selected [[True Vervain]], [[Bladeroot]], [[Marrowort]], or [[Imperial Roseweald]] the entire 90 herb bounty would be of this type. If they picked [[Cerulean Mazzarine]] - a herb that struggles to prosper in Wintermark, even in the relatively temperate climate of Kallavesa - then the bounty would be reduced to 45 herbs but again, every herb garden would benefit from added production of the rare healing herb. The ''Grimnir of Wital Grove'' would only need to make an announcement to ''change'' the herb, either to a specific type or to return to no particular herbal focus. Once the announcement was made it would continue until another change ~~wasmade~~.		The ''Grimnir of Wital Grove'', could have the power of [[Senate_announcement\|announcement]] in the Imperial Senate, allowing them to declare one healing herb that should be prioritized by the herb masters of Kallavesa. If they selected [[True Vervain]], [[Bladeroot]], [[Marrowort]], or [[Imperial Roseweald]] the entire 90 herb bounty would be of this type. If they picked [[Cerulean Mazzarine]] - a herb that struggles to prosper in Wintermark, even in the relatively temperate climate of Kallavesa - then the bounty would be reduced to 45 herbs but again, every herb garden would benefit from added production of the rare healing herb. The ''Grimnir of Wital Grove'' would only need to make an announcement to ''change'' the herb, either to a specific type or to return to no particular herbal focus. Once the announcement was made it would continue until another change was made.

	Elina requests that in recognition of the traditional roots of the Healing House, and the history of Wital Grove, the Senate specify that the title of "Grimnir of ~~Witalhall~~" is intended specifically to be held by a ''grimnir''. If they do so then a number of halls are prepared to contribute assistance to completing the commission, and it would not count towards the [[Commission#Maximum_Commissions_Available\|limit]] on the number of [[commission\|commissions]].		Elina requests that in recognition of the traditional roots of the Healing House, and the history of Wital Grove, the Senate specify that the title of "Grimnir of Wital Grove" is intended specifically to be held by a ''grimnir''. If they do so then a number of halls are prepared to contribute assistance to completing the commission, and it would not count towards the [[Commission#Maximum_Commissions_Available\|limit]] on the number of [[commission\|commissions]].

	This opportunity is available only until the end of the Winter Solstice 383YE; the urgency of the call for more herbs will have faded after that point along with interest in the Healing House.		This opportunity is available only until the end of the Winter Solstice 383YE; the urgency of the call for more herbs will have faded after that point along with interest in the Healing House.

Novemberalice at 11:49, 16 April 2022

2022-04-16T11:49:10Z

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	<div style="float:right; width: 500px; clear: right; margin-left: 20px;">{{SOP\|statement=Asny of Storm Spire, the head healer of the Mark, does great work supporting our warriors and keeping them alive, but there are not enough herbs to go with all of our warriors. We recognise this good work that she is doing and call on all of the Wintermark, but especially those who live in the lush green marshes of Kallavesa, to gather all the herbs they can, to harvest from the hidden herb groves, to be able to provide more herbs to the head healer so that they can save more lives.\|by=Pahkina, The Wintermark National\|when=Autumn Equinox 383YE\|vote= with a greater majority 223-0}}</div>		<div style="float:right; width: 500px; clear: right; margin-left: 20px;">{{SOP\|statement=Asny of Storm Spire, the head healer of the Mark, does great work supporting our warriors and keeping them alive, but there are not enough herbs to go with all of our warriors. We recognise this good work that she is doing and call on all of the Wintermark, but especially those who live in the lush green marshes of Kallavesa, to gather all the herbs they can, to harvest from the hidden herb groves, to be able to provide more herbs to the head healer so that they can save more lives.\|by=Pahkina, The Wintermark National\|when=Autumn Equinox 383YE\|vote= with a greater majority 223-0}}</div>
	==Overview==		==Overview==
			{{Audio\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=148aH4yaa3o}}
	During the Autumn Equinox, the [[Wintermark]] Nation Assembly called for more [[herbs]], to support the heroes of the 'Mark. Raised by Pahinka, and upheld with a [[Judgement#Greater_Majority\|Greater Majority]], the statement of principle was circulated among all the priests and congregations of the nation. It has caused some confusion, since people are unsure who the "head healer of the Mark" is. While they grasp that Asny of Storm Spire is doing some kind of good work, the role they fill is not really known outside Anvil. There is some speculation as to whether the assembly means the [[master Apothecary]] or the [[general]] of the [[Bloodcloaks]], or whether they are some prominent [[Wintermark_military_concerns#Grimnir\|grimnir]], but it's hard for most people to see why they would be giving their herbs to them. Surely the best thing to do with their herbs is to heal people, make potions, or sell them to increase their Prosperity?		During the Autumn Equinox, the [[Wintermark]] Nation Assembly called for more [[herbs]], to support the heroes of the 'Mark. Raised by Pahinka, and upheld with a [[Judgement#Greater_Majority\|Greater Majority]], the statement of principle was circulated among all the priests and congregations of the nation. It has caused some confusion, since people are unsure who the "head healer of the Mark" is. While they grasp that Asny of Storm Spire is doing some kind of good work, the role they fill is not really known outside Anvil. There is some speculation as to whether the assembly means the [[master Apothecary]] or the [[general]] of the [[Bloodcloaks]], or whether they are some prominent [[Wintermark_military_concerns#Grimnir\|grimnir]], but it's hard for most people to see why they would be giving their herbs to them. Surely the best thing to do with their herbs is to heal people, make potions, or sell them to increase their Prosperity?

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	* '''A senate motion could be used to amend the sinecure titles to make it clearer what their purpose is'''		* '''A senate motion could be used to amend the sinecure titles to make it clearer what their purpose is'''
	There are four existing [[sinecure\|sinecures]] that provide healing herbs to the people of Wintermark. The [[Gatekeeper of Falling Snow]] receives a bounty of a dozen [[Cerulean Mazzarine]] each season from the hot-spring warmed [[Gatekeeper_of_Falling_Snow#The_Garden_of_Falling_Snow\|Garden of Falling Snow]] in [[Hahnmark#Kalpamark\|Kalpamark]]; the [[Herbalist of the Hearth]] receives a bounty of herbs from the [[Herbalist_of_the_Hearth#The_Valley_of_Pride\|Valley of Pride]], near Hendle Hearth; and the [[Guardian of Dunfrith]] likewise gains a harvest of herbs from the [[Guardian_of_Dunfrith#Dunfirth\|Forest of Dunfirth]] near Dunhearth Hall.		There are four existing [[sinecure\|sinecures]] that provide healing herbs to the people of Wintermark. The [[Gatekeeper of Falling Snow]] receives a bounty of a dozen [[Cerulean Mazzarine]] each season from the hot-spring warmed [[Gatekeeper_of_Falling_Snow#The_Garden_of_Falling_Snow\|Garden of Falling Snow]] in [[Hahnmark#Kalpamark\|Kalpamark]]; the [[Herbalist of the Hearth]] receives a bounty of herbs from the [[Herbalist_of_the_Hearth#The_Valley_of_Pride\|Valley of Pride]], near Hendle Hearth; and the [[Guardian of Dunfrith]] likewise gains a harvest of herbs from the [[Guardian_of_Dunfrith#Dunfirth\|Forest of Dunfirth]] near Dunhearth Hall.
	~~{{Audio\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=148aH4yaa3o}}~~
	There is also the [[Master Apothecary]], who receives herbs each season from the [[Master_Apothecary#The_Master_Apothecary.27s_Garden\|Master Apothecary's Garden]] in southern Kalpamark. Unlike the previous three sinecures, the Master Apothecary is expected to use the herbs provided by the sinecure to create [[potion\|potions]] of use by Imperial troops. Assuming the current Master Apothecary, Kesa Algarsdottir, takes those responsibilities seriously, then that approach represents something that could be adopted for other sinecures and similar Imperial titles?		There is also the [[Master Apothecary]], who receives herbs each season from the [[Master_Apothecary#The_Master_Apothecary.27s_Garden\|Master Apothecary's Garden]] in southern Kalpamark. Unlike the previous three sinecures, the Master Apothecary is expected to use the herbs provided by the sinecure to create [[potion\|potions]] of use by Imperial troops. Assuming the current Master Apothecary, Kesa Algarsdottir, takes those responsibilities seriously, then that approach represents something that could be adopted for other sinecures and similar Imperial titles?

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	Finally, as [[#Helping Asny\|part of this wind of fortune]] we've created an opportunity for players to change an honorific position into an Imperial title ''if they wish to go that route''. We've done something similar with the ''Runesmith'' as part of the [[Conduit_to_destiny#The_Runesmith\|Runegrott opportunity]] and the ''Speaker for the Crows'' with [[Old_ways#Speaker_for_the_Crows\|Rund's Hall]]. As part of that we've suggested what we think is a thematic Wintermark-inspired name for the title. That's because you ''cannot'' create an Imperial title called the "Head Healer of Wintermark" because that would strongly imply that whoever was appointed was in charge of the other healers. That is not constitutional in Empire - you can do a lot of things in Empire but you can't put one character directly in charge of other characters. We deliberately rule out names like this to try to ensure that we avoid the risk of players feeling like they need another character's permission to do something before they act.		Finally, as [[#Helping Asny\|part of this wind of fortune]] we've created an opportunity for players to change an honorific position into an Imperial title ''if they wish to go that route''. We've done something similar with the ''Runesmith'' as part of the [[Conduit_to_destiny#The_Runesmith\|Runegrott opportunity]] and the ''Speaker for the Crows'' with [[Old_ways#Speaker_for_the_Crows\|Rund's Hall]]. As part of that we've suggested what we think is a thematic Wintermark-inspired name for the title. That's because you ''cannot'' create an Imperial title called the "Head Healer of Wintermark" because that would strongly imply that whoever was appointed was in charge of the other healers. That is not constitutional in Empire - you can do a lot of things in Empire but you can't put one character directly in charge of other characters. We deliberately rule out names like this to try to ensure that we avoid the risk of players feeling like they need another character's permission to do something before they act.

			==Resolution==
			The Imperial Senate [[Construct_Healing_House_of_Wittal_Grove\|commissioned the Healing House of Wittal Grove]] but chose not to create a title to oversee it. As such it will only function as a great work.
	==Further Reading==		==Further Reading==
	* [[Wintermark_military_concerns#Grimnir\|Grimnir]]		* [[Wintermark_military_concerns#Grimnir\|Grimnir]]