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GuiltyConscience: /* Fines and Funds */

2026-08-06T10:47:36Z

Fines and Funds

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	==Fines and Funds==		==Fines and Funds==
	* '''Haravgi proposes that the Imperial Senate pass a motion ~~instructive~~ the magistrates to pass all fines collected to the Virtue fund'''		* '''Haravgi proposes that the Imperial Senate pass a motion instructing the magistrates to pass all fines collected to the Virtue fund'''
	* '''Haravgi suggests that the virtuous across the Empire "persuade" the Imperial Senate to pursue this course of action by withdrawing their labour'''		* '''Haravgi suggests that the virtuous across the Empire "persuade" the Imperial Senate to pursue this course of action by withdrawing their labour'''

Twiggy at 21:38, 3 April 2026

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	[[Category:Winds of Fortune]][[Category:385YE Winter]][[Category:Recent History]]		[[Category:Winds of Fortune]][[Category:385YE Winter]][[Category:Recent History]]
	<ic>~~Dialagos~~ smiled at his young friend as he paced up and down in front of him, his hands waving animatedly as he talked. What it was to be young and energetic he thought to himself. They rarely saw eye-to-eye but he relished these conversations, they kept him young. They both had such different views of the world but shared the same passions - it was fun to thrash ideas out.		<ic>Dialogos smiled at his young friend as he paced up and down in front of him, his hands waving animatedly as he talked. What it was to be young and energetic he thought to himself. They rarely saw eye-to-eye but he relished these conversations, they kept him young. They both had such different views of the world but shared the same passions - it was fun to thrash ideas out.

	"Vice is contagious - that is an established ''fact''." Haravgi was in his element now, always confident on matters of philosophy like this. "That means, If we allow the Imperial Senate to access these funds, they will be corrupted by it, the vice will consume them like a fire, till all that is left is a house of cowards and thieves! The only way to check that is to ensure virtuous dispensation of the proceeds."		"Vice is contagious - that is an established ''fact''." Haravgi was in his element now, always confident on matters of philosophy like this. "That means, If we allow the Imperial Senate to access these funds, they will be corrupted by it, the vice will consume them like a fire, till all that is left is a house of cowards and thieves! The only way to check that is to ensure virtuous dispensation of the proceeds."

Dre at 13:01, 18 January 2026

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	"I hope you're not going to make an argument based on hypothecation?" Dialogos winced in mock pain.		"I hope you're not going to make an argument based on hypothecation?" Dialogos winced in mock pain.

	"It's a question of axiology! It's about fundamental values. Putting the money in the hands of the Synod gives it a completely different meaning." said Dialogos		"It's a question of axiology! It's about fundamental values. Putting the money in the hands of the Synod gives it a completely different meaning," said Dialogos.

	"Axiology? I think you've got a stronger argument pointing out that the status quo encourages Senate to maximise the amount of crime committed. Either way you're not going to move the Imperial Senate with this, trust me."		"Axiology? I think you've got a stronger argument pointing out that the status quo encourages Senate to maximise the amount of crime committed. Either way you're not going to move the Imperial Senate with this, trust me."

Matt: Text replacement - "[[Imperial Synod" to "[[Synod"

2026-01-15T12:51:07Z

Text replacement - "[[Imperial Synod" to "[[Synod"

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	"I've thought of that..." Dialogos grinned, clearly pleased to have an opportunity to reveal his master plan.		"I've thought of that..." Dialogos grinned, clearly pleased to have an opportunity to reveal his master plan.
	</ic>		</ic>
	<div style="float:left; width: 400px; clear: left;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Rewards and Forwards.jpg\|caption=The General [[Assembly]] of the [[~~Imperial~~ Synod]] controls the Virtue Fund - a pool of money endowed to the Synod so that they may directly reward virtuous behaviour.\|align=left\|width=400}}</div>{{audio\|link= https://youtu.be/rGzLmH3Dj04?si=C7aw4KvMXzk2J4id}}		<div style="float:left; width: 400px; clear: left;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Rewards and Forwards.jpg\|caption=The General [[Assembly]] of the [[Synod]] controls the Virtue Fund - a pool of money endowed to the Synod so that they may directly reward virtuous behaviour.\|align=left\|width=400}}</div>{{audio\|link= https://youtu.be/rGzLmH3Dj04?si=C7aw4KvMXzk2J4id}}
	==Overview==		==Overview==
	At the Autumn Equinox, Cassia Silkweaver raised a judgement in the Urizen national Assembly that explicitly thanked the Varushkan boyars for their aid in providing an Imperial Wayleave to support the construction of the Gardens of Pallas. Such statements are not uncommon in the national assemblies, where the priests wish to put acts of generosity and Prosperity by citizens of other nations on record.		At the Autumn Equinox, Cassia Silkweaver raised a judgement in the Urizen national Assembly that explicitly thanked the Varushkan boyars for their aid in providing an Imperial Wayleave to support the construction of the Gardens of Pallas. Such statements are not uncommon in the national assemblies, where the priests wish to put acts of generosity and Prosperity by citizens of other nations on record.

Twiggy at 09:05, 14 July 2025

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	<tr><td>'''Responsibilities:''' Work with Imperial artists to commemorate inspirational actions and significant events with monuments and statues</td></tr>		<tr><td>'''Responsibilities:''' Work with Imperial artists to commemorate inspirational actions and significant events with monuments and statues</td></tr>
	<tr><td>'''Necessary Details:''' The title could have tenure, or could be appointed yearly, depending on how the Senate creates it.</td></tr></table></div>		<tr><td>'''Necessary Details:''' The title could have tenure, or could be appointed yearly, depending on how the Senate creates it.</td></tr></table></div>
	When the proposal is mooted to the Constitutional Court (someone traps Leontes the Scribe against the buffet table at a wedding for nearly an hour), they are of the opinion that the title could be created and as long as its responsibility was finding sculptors, paying some labourers to put a statue into position, and then telling people about it it wouldn't count against the Senate's limited number of commissions each season. Indeed, the Senate might wish to give them a small stipend - even a few Thrones each season - with which to acquire materials, pay artists, and employ burly folk with their own wheelbarrows.		When the proposal is mooted to the Constitutional Court (someone traps Leontes the Scribe against the buffet table at a wedding for nearly an hour), they are of the opinion that the title could be created and as long as its responsibility was finding sculptors, paying some labourers to put a statue into position, and then telling people about it, it wouldn't count against the Senate's limited number of commissions each season. Indeed, the Senate might wish to give them a small stipend - even a few Thrones each season - with which to acquire materials, pay artists, and employ burly folk with their own wheelbarrows.

	'''OOC Note:''' The title proposed would in theory be able to build any edifice that used nine wains or fewer. These kinds of follies are not going to change the face of the Empire - they'd be added to existing pages with a few lines of description at most, the nature of which would be guided by the sculptor and the nature of the title holder's announcement. There is nothing legally to stop the title holder from commissioning an edifice that isn't a statue or monument, but the expectation is that if they did so the Synod would step in to remind them of their responsibilities, or the Senate would simply abrogate the title. It's also worth noting that the title as designed does not have the power of [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Concedence\|concedence]] so wouldn't be able to give anything away.		'''OOC Note:''' The title proposed would in theory be able to build any edifice that used nine wains or fewer. These kinds of follies are not going to change the face of the Empire - they'd be added to existing pages with a few lines of description at most, the nature of which would be guided by the sculptor and the nature of the title holder's announcement. There is nothing legally to stop the title holder from commissioning an edifice that isn't a statue or monument, but the expectation is that if they did so the Synod would step in to remind them of their responsibilities, or the Senate would simply abrogate the title. It's also worth noting that the title as designed does not have the power of [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Concedence\|concedence]] so wouldn't be able to give anything away.

Beeswax at 21:33, 31 March 2025

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Dre at 19:17, 29 July 2024

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Matt: /* Small Monuments */

2024-05-20T21:37:50Z

Small Monuments

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	There's another possibility as well, partly inspired by all this talk of rewarding and recognising people, partly by the [[Watercolours_in_the_rain#What_Are_We_Fighting_For?\|recent statements]] of the Pride assembly. The Senate could create an [[Imperial title]] - the ''Mistress of Monuments'' perhaps - whose specific responsibility would be finding folk who deserve a statue, or events that deserve a monument, and building something. Nothing massive – Pride in small things after all. But the kind of thing the Senate doesn't have time for, what with all the castles and colleges of magic it needs to construct. The title would be limited to creating follies, and limited to spending a maximum of 9 wains on any given commission. It'd be appointed through the Imperial Synod – the Assembly of the Way might be a good choice, but the General Assembly or any of the Virtue Assemblies would also be appropriate – and it'd be responsible for recognising people who can provide an inspiration or events that ought not to be forgotten. it could have [[New_Imperial_titles#Tenure\|tenure]] if the Senate wished, or it could be created each year, as detailed in the motion that creates it.		There's another possibility as well, partly inspired by all this talk of rewarding and recognising people, partly by the [[Watercolours_in_the_rain#What_Are_We_Fighting_For?\|recent statements]] of the Pride assembly. The Senate could create an [[Imperial title]] - the ''Mistress of Monuments'' perhaps - whose specific responsibility would be finding folk who deserve a statue, or events that deserve a monument, and building something. Nothing massive – Pride in small things after all. But the kind of thing the Senate doesn't have time for, what with all the castles and colleges of magic it needs to construct. The title would be limited to creating follies, and limited to spending a maximum of 9 wains on any given commission. It'd be appointed through the Imperial Synod – the Assembly of the Way might be a good choice, but the General Assembly or any of the Virtue Assemblies would also be appropriate – and it'd be responsible for recognising people who can provide an inspiration or events that ought not to be forgotten. it could have [[New_Imperial_titles#Tenure\|tenure]] if the Senate wished, or it could be created each year, as detailed in the motion that creates it.
	<div style="width: 400px; float: right; clear: right; margin-left:10px;">		<div style="width: 400px; float: right; clear: right; margin-left:10px;">
	<table class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed~~" style="float: right; margin-left:10px; width=50%; max-width:400px;~~">		<table class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
	<tr><td style="background-color: LightGreen;">'''Mistress of Monuments'''</td></tr>		<tr><td style="background-color: LightGreen;">'''Mistress of Monuments'''</td></tr>
	<tr><td>'''Title:''' Imperial position</td></tr>		<tr><td>'''Title:''' Imperial position</td></tr>

Hailmur: /* Fines and Funds */

2024-04-23T09:12:51Z

Fines and Funds

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	Each virtue assembly that passes this judgement will be able to influence members of the faithful across the Empire, encouraging them to refuse to support the Imperial Senate. If that happens, then the Imperial Senate will have one less commission slot for each Virtue Assembly (including the Assembly of the Way) that enacts this mandate.		Each virtue assembly that passes this judgement will be able to influence members of the faithful across the Empire, encouraging them to refuse to support the Imperial Senate. If that happens, then the Imperial Senate will have one less commission slot for each Virtue Assembly (including the Assembly of the Way) that enacts this mandate.

			'''Velko Perunovich Razoradze''' has submitted an alternate mandate for the General Assembly to consider.

			{{Mandate\|mandate=Imperial laws are the boundary that separates mortals from monsters. Fines from crimes being spent by magistrates to try and reduce crime is a virtuous self-funding cycle. We send {named priest} with 200 doses of liao to persuade the faithful to withdraw their labour until the Senate ensures that all fines become the property of the Magistrates, as has been tradition since the reign of Empress Deanne.\|assembly=General Assembly}}

			If enacted this mandate would prevent any commissions that have a direct labour cost until the Senate assigns the fines back to the Magistrates or until the start of the Winter Solstice 386YE. If this mandate is not enacted with a greater majority then it will still be possible to build commissions in Varushka and Urizen territories - and the [[Boyar of the Iron Roads]] would not be affected. The Master of the Koboldi would be the only person able to freely build commissions. This mandate is not considered to be competing with those available to the Virtue Assemblies.

	==Golden Windfalls==		==Golden Windfalls==

Novemberalice at 07:26, 23 April 2024

2024-04-23T07:26:50Z

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	"I've thought of that..." Dialogos grinned, clearly pleased to have an opportunity to reveal his master plan.		"I've thought of that..." Dialogos grinned, clearly pleased to have an opportunity to reveal his master plan.
	</ic>		</ic>
	<div style="float:left; width: 400px; clear: left;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Rewards and Forwards.jpg\|caption=The General [[Assembly]] of the [[Imperial Synod]] controls the Virtue Fund - a pool of money endowed to the Synod so that they may directly reward virtuous behaviour.\|align=left\|width=400}}</div>		<div style="float:left; width: 400px; clear: left;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Rewards and Forwards.jpg\|caption=The General [[Assembly]] of the [[Imperial Synod]] controls the Virtue Fund - a pool of money endowed to the Synod so that they may directly reward virtuous behaviour.\|align=left\|width=400}}</div>{{audio\|link= https://youtu.be/rGzLmH3Dj04?si=C7aw4KvMXzk2J4id}}
	==Overview==		==Overview==
	At the Autumn Equinox, Cassia Silkweaver raised a judgement in the Urizen national Assembly that explicitly thanked the Varushkan boyars for their aid in providing an Imperial Wayleave to support the construction of the Gardens of Pallas. Such statements are not uncommon in the national assemblies, where the priests wish to put acts of generosity and Prosperity by citizens of other nations on record.		At the Autumn Equinox, Cassia Silkweaver raised a judgement in the Urizen national Assembly that explicitly thanked the Varushkan boyars for their aid in providing an Imperial Wayleave to support the construction of the Gardens of Pallas. Such statements are not uncommon in the national assemblies, where the priests wish to put acts of generosity and Prosperity by citizens of other nations on record.

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	<div style="width: 400px; float: right; clear: right; margin-left:10px;">		<div style="width: 400px; float: right; clear: right; margin-left:10px;">
	<table class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"><tr><td style="background-color: LightBlue;">'''Prosperous Counting House'''</tr>		<table class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"><tr><td style="background-color: LightBlue;">'''Prosperous Counting House'''</tr>
	<tr><td>'''Commission Type:''' ~~Folly~~</td></tr>		<tr><td>'''Commission Type:''' Edifice</td></tr>
	<tr><td>'''Cost:''' 5 weirwood, 5 white granite, 30 crowns, and three months to construct</td></tr>		<tr><td>'''Cost:''' 5 weirwood, 5 white granite, 30 crowns, and three months to construct</td></tr>
	<tr><td>'''Effect:''' Adds funds to the Virtue Fund based on territory</td></tr></table>		<tr><td>'''Effect:''' Adds funds to the Virtue Fund based on territory</td></tr></table>
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	<table class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"><tr><td style="background-color: LightBlue;">'''Statue of the Cockscroft Lad'''</tr>		<table class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"><tr><td style="background-color: LightBlue;">'''Statue of the Cockscroft Lad'''</tr>
	<tr><td>'''Commission Type:''' ~~Folly~~</td></tr>		<tr><td>'''Commission Type:''' Edifice</td></tr>
	<tr><td>'''Location:''' Wayford, Maiden Downs</td></tr>		<tr><td>'''Location:''' Wayford, Maiden Downs</td></tr>
	<tr><td>'''Cost:''' 5 white granite, 15 crowns</td></tr>		<tr><td>'''Cost:''' 5 white granite, 15 crowns</td></tr>
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	<tr><td>'''Option:''' The commissioner can name a sculptor who will describe the work of art they create</td></tr>		<tr><td>'''Option:''' The commissioner can name a sculptor who will describe the work of art they create</td></tr>
	</table></div>		</table></div>
	What's being proposed is a [[~~folly~~]]. It would require 5 wains of white granite, and 15 crowns in labour costs to get the statue into position. Whoever raised the commission could name a specific sculptor to immortalise Jonathan Cockscroft and the attack of Siakha. If that sculptor was a player character, they're be able to submit up to fifty words describing the statue they created that would inform the description added to the wiki on the Mitwold territory page.		What's being proposed is a [[edifice]]. It would require 5 wains of white granite, and 15 crowns in labour costs to get the statue into position. Whoever raised the commission could name a specific sculptor to immortalise Jonathan Cockscroft and the attack of Siakha. If that sculptor was a player character, they're be able to submit up to fifty words describing the statue they created that would inform the description added to the wiki on the Mitwold territory page.

	There's another possibility as well, partly inspired by all this talk of rewarding and recognising people, partly by the [[Watercolours_in_the_rain#What_Are_We_Fighting_For?\|recent statements]] of the Pride assembly. The Senate could create an [[Imperial title]] - the ''Mistress of Monuments'' perhaps - whose specific responsibility would be finding folk who deserve a statue, or events that deserve a monument, and building something. Nothing massive – Pride in small things after all. But the kind of thing the Senate doesn't have time for, what with all the castles and colleges of magic it needs to construct. The title would be limited to creating follies, and limited to spending a maximum of 9 wains on any given commission. It'd be appointed through the Imperial Synod – the Assembly of the Way might be a good choice, but the General Assembly or any of the Virtue Assemblies would also be appropriate – and it'd be responsible for recognising people who can provide an inspiration or events that ought not to be forgotten. it could have [[New_Imperial_titles#Tenure\|tenure]] if the Senate wished, or it could be created each year, as detailed in the motion that creates it.		There's another possibility as well, partly inspired by all this talk of rewarding and recognising people, partly by the [[Watercolours_in_the_rain#What_Are_We_Fighting_For?\|recent statements]] of the Pride assembly. The Senate could create an [[Imperial title]] - the ''Mistress of Monuments'' perhaps - whose specific responsibility would be finding folk who deserve a statue, or events that deserve a monument, and building something. Nothing massive – Pride in small things after all. But the kind of thing the Senate doesn't have time for, what with all the castles and colleges of magic it needs to construct. The title would be limited to creating follies, and limited to spending a maximum of 9 wains on any given commission. It'd be appointed through the Imperial Synod – the Assembly of the Way might be a good choice, but the General Assembly or any of the Virtue Assemblies would also be appropriate – and it'd be responsible for recognising people who can provide an inspiration or events that ought not to be forgotten. it could have [[New_Imperial_titles#Tenure\|tenure]] if the Senate wished, or it could be created each year, as detailed in the motion that creates it.
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	<tr><td>'''Title:''' Imperial position</td></tr>		<tr><td>'''Title:''' Imperial position</td></tr>
	<tr><td>'''Appointment:''' Imperial Synod; General Assembly or Virtue Assembly</td></tr>		<tr><td>'''Appointment:''' Imperial Synod; General Assembly or Virtue Assembly</td></tr>
	<tr><td>'''Powers:''' Ability to commission ~~a folly~~ of up to 9 wains in size each season</td></tr>		<tr><td>'''Powers:''' Ability to commission an edifice of up to 9 wains in size each season</td></tr>
	<tr><td>'''Responsibilities:''' Work with Imperial artists to commemorate inspirational actions and significant events with monuments and statues</td></tr>		<tr><td>'''Responsibilities:''' Work with Imperial artists to commemorate inspirational actions and significant events with monuments and statues</td></tr>
	<tr><td>'''Necessary Details:''' The title could have tenure, or could be appointed yearly, depending on how the Senate creates it.</td></tr></table></div>		<tr><td>'''Necessary Details:''' The title could have tenure, or could be appointed yearly, depending on how the Senate creates it.</td></tr></table></div>
	When the proposal is mooted to the Constitutional Court (someone traps Leontes the Scribe against the buffet table at a wedding for nearly an hour), they are of the opinion that the title could be created and as long as its responsibility was finding sculptors, paying some labourers to put a statue into position, and then telling people about it it wouldn't count against the Senate's limited number of commissions each season. Indeed, the Senate might wish to give them a small stipend - even a few Thrones each season - with which to acquire materials, pay artists, and employ burly folk with their own wheelbarrows.		When the proposal is mooted to the Constitutional Court (someone traps Leontes the Scribe against the buffet table at a wedding for nearly an hour), they are of the opinion that the title could be created and as long as its responsibility was finding sculptors, paying some labourers to put a statue into position, and then telling people about it it wouldn't count against the Senate's limited number of commissions each season. Indeed, the Senate might wish to give them a small stipend - even a few Thrones each season - with which to acquire materials, pay artists, and employ burly folk with their own wheelbarrows.

	'''OOC Note:''' The title proposed would in theory be able to build any ~~folly~~ that used nine wains or fewer. These kinds of follies are not going to change the face of the Empire - they'd be added to existing pages with a few lines of description at most, the nature of which would be guided by the sculptor and the nature of the title holder's announcement. There is nothing legally to stop the title holder from commissioning ~~a folly~~ that isn't a statue or monument, but the expectation is that if they did so the Synod would step in to remind them of their responsibilities, or the Senate would simply abrogate the title. It's also worth noting that the title as designed does not have the power of [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Concedence\|concedence]] so wouldn't be able to give anything away.		'''OOC Note:''' The title proposed would in theory be able to build any edifice that used nine wains or fewer. These kinds of follies are not going to change the face of the Empire - they'd be added to existing pages with a few lines of description at most, the nature of which would be guided by the sculptor and the nature of the title holder's announcement. There is nothing legally to stop the title holder from commissioning an edifice that isn't a statue or monument, but the expectation is that if they did so the Synod would step in to remind them of their responsibilities, or the Senate would simply abrogate the title. It's also worth noting that the title as designed does not have the power of [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Concedence\|concedence]] so wouldn't be able to give anything away.

	==OOC Design Notes==		==OOC Design Notes==