Future territory assignment - Revision history

Dre at 13:46, 12 May 2022

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	~~[[Category:Unconstitutional]]~~
	[[Category:Senate Motion]]		[[Category:Senate Motion]]
	[[Category: 376YE Winter]]		[[Category: 376YE Winter]]
	__NOTOC__		__NOTOC__

Hastur at 17:13, 22 January 2022

2022-01-22T17:13:03Z

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	~~[[Category: Senate Motion]]~~
	[[Category:Unconstitutional]]		[[Category:Unconstitutional]]
			[[Category:Senate Motion]]
	[[Category: 376YE Winter]]		[[Category: 376YE Winter]]
			__NOTOC__

Hastur at 19:18, 20 January 2022

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Rafferty: remove extraneous categories

2014-04-03T21:14:41Z

remove extraneous categories

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	[[Category: Senate Motion]]		[[Category: Senate Motion]]
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	[[Category:Unconstitutional]]		[[Category:Unconstitutional]]

Rafferty: remove senate category

2014-04-03T21:02:29Z

remove senate category

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	[[Category: Senate Motion]]		[[Category: Senate Motion]]
	[[Category: Winter 376YE]]		[[Category: Winter 376YE]]
	[[Category:Unconstitutional]]		[[Category:Unconstitutional]]

Scarabmonkey at 23:04, 10 September 2013

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	For all these reasons and more, it is not possible for one of the houses to take a vote instructing any future body of Imperial citizens on how they must vote. Basically you can vote on things that are happening now - but not on things that are going to happen in the future.		For all these reasons and more, it is not possible for one of the houses to take a vote instructing any future body of Imperial citizens on how they must vote. Basically you can vote on things that are happening now - but not on things that are going to happen in the future.

	Of course it is possible for the Senate to express ~~it's~~ will - to make a public statement saying something should happen. That's perfectly acceptable - but it's not constitutional as a binding piece of law that characters are legally obliged to either follow or repeal. This statement clearly illustrates what the Senate wanted to happen at the time the vote was taken (being unconstitutional has no effect on that), so at the point where the Senators come to vote it is likely to be an important part of the politics - ''it just isn't a legal requirement''.		Of course it is possible for the Senate to express its will - to make a public statement saying something should happen. That's perfectly acceptable - but it's not constitutional as a binding piece of law that characters are legally obliged to either follow or repeal. This statement clearly illustrates what the Senate wanted to happen at the time the vote was taken (being unconstitutional has no effect on that), so at the point where the Senators come to vote it is likely to be an important part of the politics - ''it just isn't a legal requirement''.
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Matt: /* Legal Ramifications */

2013-09-10T12:08:57Z

Legal Ramifications

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	===Legal Ramifications===		===Legal Ramifications===
	* ~~Struck down by the Magistrates~~		* None - it is unconstitutional for the Senate to make decisions about what the Senate in the future must do.
	It is unconstitutional for the Senate to make decisions about what the Senate in the future must do.

	<box>====OOC Notes====		<box>====OOC Notes====

Matt: /* Legal Ramifications */

2013-09-10T12:02:44Z

Legal Ramifications

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	===Legal Ramifications===		===Legal Ramifications===
	* Struck down by the Magistrates		* Struck down by the Magistrates
	It is unconstitutional for the Senate to make decisions about what the Senate in the future must do. It is not possible to take a vote instructing any future body of Imperial citizens on how they must vote.		It is unconstitutional for the Senate to make decisions about what the Senate in the future must do.

			<box>====OOC Notes====
			Empire is designed so that significant political events will occur that must be addressed by the players - issues like the allocation of territories which must be decided by the Senate. If players vote on future events - to dictate the outcome of an event before it has happened - that basically robs the future players of fun they should have had. It also creates all kinds of tedious situations where players are encouraged to vote to over-turn a decision they took earlier - we're keen to avoid the game being bogged down with too many procedural votes of this kind.

			Rather the game is designed so that important votes like this are taken at the point where they are relevant - and many cannot be reversed - precisely to stop players trying to share things (which is a great in-character solution, but terrible for game drama) and to stop them constantly changing their collective mind every time the make-up of the Senate or similar changes.

			For all these reasons and more, it is not possible for one of the houses to take a vote instructing any future body of Imperial citizens on how they must vote. Basically you can vote on things that are happening now - but not on things that are going to happen in the future.

			Of course it is possible for the Senate to express it's will - to make a public statement saying something should happen. That's perfectly acceptable - but it's not constitutional as a binding piece of law that characters are legally obliged to either follow or repeal. This statement clearly illustrates what the Senate wanted to happen at the time the vote was taken (being unconstitutional has no effect on that), so at the point where the Senators come to vote it is likely to be an important part of the politics - ''it just isn't a legal requirement''.
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	[[Category: Senate]]		[[Category: Senate]]

Rafferty: /* Constitution */

2013-09-08T13:08:25Z

Constitution

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	===~~Constitution~~===		===Legal Ramifications===
	* Struck down by the Magistrates		* Struck down by the Magistrates
	It is unconstitutional for the Senate to make decisions about what the Senate in the future must do. It is not possible to take a vote instructing any future body of Imperial citizens on how they must vote.		It is unconstitutional for the Senate to make decisions about what the Senate in the future must do. It is not possible to take a vote instructing any future body of Imperial citizens on how they must vote.

Matt at 07:54, 8 September 2013

2013-09-08T07:54:35Z

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	[[Category: Senate Motion]]		[[Category: Senate Motion]]
	[[Category: Winter 376YE]]		[[Category: Winter 376YE]]
			[[Category:Unconstitutional]]