Great Forest Orcs - Revision history

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	Unfortunately, a mastery of the arts of the [[Surgical skills#Physick\|physick]] or the [[Surgical skills#Apothecary\|apothecary]] is of little use without [[herbs]] - and it will take time for the Great Forest orcs to build up their own herb gardens. Every herb they possess is needed to keep their people alive. Despite their best efforts, many of their people are still in need of medical treatment and without it they are unlikely to survive the coming winter. Some made efforts to buy what supplies they can from the Navarr - but they lost what little wealth they once possessed when they fled the Barrens.		Unfortunately, a mastery of the arts of the [[Surgical skills#Physick\|physick]] or the [[Surgical skills#Apothecary\|apothecary]] is of little use without [[herbs]] - and it will take time for the Great Forest orcs to build up their own herb gardens. Every herb they possess is needed to keep their people alive. Despite their best efforts, many of their people are still in need of medical treatment and without it they are unlikely to survive the coming winter. Some made efforts to buy what supplies they can from the Navarr - but they lost what little wealth they once possessed when they fled the Barrens.

	During the Autumn Equinox 381YE, the Imperial Senate [[Amend_the_use_of_the_Gardens_of_High_Chalcis\|voted to offer aid to the Great Forest orcs]]. The production from the [[Gardens of High Chalcis]] in Reikos were channelled into Therunin to aid the recovery of the orcs - removing the benefits they grant the Highborn herbalists for the next year. At the same time the [[Assembly#The_National_Assemblies\|Navarr National Assembly]] [[381YE_Autumn_Equinox_Synod_judgements#Mandate\|enacted]] a [[mandate]] to encourage the people of Therunin to share their herbs with the orcs, granting additional assistance but reducing both the production of the herb gardens and the income of [[business\|businesses]] across the territory.		During the Autumn Equinox 381YE, the Imperial Senate [[Amend_the_use_of_the_Gardens_of_High_Chalcis\|voted to offer aid to the Great Forest orcs]]. The production from the [[Benefactor_of_High_Chalcis#Gardens_of_High_Chalcis\|Gardens of High Chalcis]] in Reikos were channelled into Therunin to aid the recovery of the orcs - removing the benefits they grant the Highborn herbalists for the next year. At the same time the [[Assembly#The_National_Assemblies\|Navarr National Assembly]] [[381YE_Autumn_Equinox_Synod_judgements#Mandate\|enacted]] a [[mandate]] to encourage the people of Therunin to share their herbs with the orcs, granting additional assistance but reducing both the production of the herb gardens and the income of [[business\|businesses]] across the territory.

	==The Briars==		==The Briars==

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	==Further Reading==		==Further Reading==
			* [[Beliefs of the Great Forest]] - discussion of the spiritual beliefs of the Great Forest orcs
			* [[Great Forest of Peytaht]] - old [[historical research]] about the forest on whose borders the sept lives
	===Winds of Fortune===		===Winds of Fortune===
	* [[Green and pleasant lands]] (Summer 379YE)		* [[Green and pleasant lands]] (Summer 379YE)

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	Like [[Imperial_Orcs_religious_beliefs#Imperial_Orc_ancestors\|many orcs]], they hold their ancestors in particular reverence. For some time there was a belief that they also revered or even worshipped invisible spirits that they believed live in the forest and protect them from [[Imperial_Orcs_religious_beliefs#The_Howling_Abyss\|the Howling Abyss]]. They initially refused to talk about these spirits, beyond saying they were the "children" of the Great Forest - the single woodland they claim once stretched across the entire area now occupied by the Empire.		Like [[Imperial_Orcs_religious_beliefs#Imperial_Orc_ancestors\|many orcs]], they hold their ancestors in particular reverence. For some time there was a belief that they also revered or even worshipped invisible spirits that they believed live in the forest and protect them from [[Imperial_Orcs_religious_beliefs#The_Howling_Abyss\|the Howling Abyss]]. They initially refused to talk about these spirits, beyond saying they were the "children" of the Great Forest - the single woodland they claim once stretched across the entire area now occupied by the Empire.

	During the Autumn Equinox 385YE, the Assembly of Pride took advantage of [[Tooth_by_tooth#Pride_and_Prejudice\|an opportunity]] to send a number of priests to try and increase Imperial understanding of the Great Forest Orcs beliefs. Unfortunately, [[Ripples and shadows\|developments in the Barrens]] meant that the priests' visit was cut short. At the ~~same time~~, ~~though, there has been enough communication about spiritual matters~~ to ~~learn more~~ about the ''[[~~Beliefs~~ of the Great Forest]]''.		During the Autumn Equinox 385YE, the Assembly of Pride took advantage of [[Tooth_by_tooth#Pride_and_Prejudice\|an opportunity]] to send a number of priests to try and increase Imperial understanding of the Great Forest Orcs beliefs. Unfortunately, [[Ripples and shadows\|developments in the Barrens]] meant that the priests' visit was cut short. Following the Spring Equinox 388YE, a delegation of [[Illarawm]] mystagogues and [[shamans]] from the [[Imperial Orcs]] visited the sept in the Barrens to talk about their ancestors. Between the efforts of these two groups, a document on the ''[[beliefs of the Great Forest]]'' has been compiled.

	===Military===		===Military===

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History

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	According to the orcs, the [[Great Forest of Peytaht]] that covers the western Barrens and northern [[Reikos]] once covered much of the area now occupied by the Empire as well reaching as far north as the mountains of [[Otkodov]], and as far west as the kingdoms of the [[Jotun]]. They claim that their ancestors lived throughout the forest, long before the first humans came and began to cut the trees down. Regardless of the truth of these claims the Great Forest is today very much reduced - as are the people named for it.		According to the orcs, the [[Great Forest of Peytaht]] that covers the western Barrens and northern [[Reikos]] once covered much of the area now occupied by the Empire as well reaching as far north as the mountains of [[Otkodov]], and as far west as the kingdoms of the [[Jotun]]. They claim that their ancestors lived throughout the forest, long before the first humans came and began to cut the trees down. Regardless of the truth of these claims the Great Forest is today very much reduced - as are the people named for it.

	For the last five hundred years or so, the Great Forest orcs lived in the Barrens, claiming the [[The_Barrens#Heart_of_Peytaht\|Heart of Peytaht]] itself of course, but also the [[The_Barrens#The_Untrod_Groves\|Untrod Groves]] and the [[The_Barrens#The_Bleaks\|Bleaks]]. They lived alongside the other independent orcs- the Black Wind, the Vendarri, the Karass, and others whose names have been lost to history. From time to time they fought among themselves, against the [[Druj]], and against the people of [[Dawn]] and Navarr.		For the last five hundred years or so, the Great Forest orcs lived in the Barrens, claiming the [[The_Barrens#Heart_of_Peytaht\|Heart of Peytaht]] itself of course, but also the [[The_Barrens#The_Untrod_Groves\|Untrod Groves]] and the [[The_Barrens#The_Bleaks\|Bleaks]]. They lived alongside the other independent orcs - the Black Wind, the Vendarri, the Karass, and others whose names have been lost to history. From time to time they fought among themselves, against the [[Druj]], and against the people of [[Dawn]] and Navarr.

	Their freedom came to a decisive end a little over a century ago when the Druj pushed into the Barrens and conquered the territory. Most were enslaved, but some of the orcs fled west into [[Brocéliande]], living as bandits in [[Brocéliande#Boar's Dell\|Boar's Dell]] and [[Brocéliande#Elerael\|Elerael]]. There are a few rumours of relatively peaceful trade between the barbarian settlements and some of the [[steading\|steadings]] but they largely avoided the Navarr. Those living in Elerael were brutally suppressed when the Druj pushed into that region following their invasion of [[Reikos]], but the orcs in the northern part of the territory lived in relative peace until 378YE.		Their freedom came to a decisive end a little over a century ago when the Druj pushed into the Barrens and conquered the territory. Most were enslaved, but some of the orcs fled west into [[Brocéliande]], living as bandits in [[Brocéliande#Boar's Dell\|Boar's Dell]] and [[Brocéliande#Elerael\|Elerael]]. There are a few rumours of relatively peaceful trade between the barbarian settlements and some of the [[steading\|steadings]] but they largely avoided the Navarr. Those living in Elerael were brutally suppressed when the Druj pushed into that region following their invasion of [[Reikos]], but the orcs in the northern part of the territory lived in relative peace until 378YE.

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	===Military===		===Military===
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	When they arrived in Therunin, the Great Forest Orcs supported a standard [[Army\|campaign army]] under the command of a warchief (a rank analogous to an Imperial [[general]]). The warchief answered to the chief and their council - who led the Great Forest orcs- but was free to act as they see fit in pursuit of the goals the chief and council set forth. The army has since been disbanded - the day to day requirements for the orcs to hunt and build take precedence over the need for a standing army, and as guests of the Empire they have no real ability to maintain such a large force of warriors anyway.		When they arrived in Therunin, the Great Forest Orcs supported a standard [[Army\|campaign army]] under the command of a warchief (a rank analogous to an Imperial [[general]]). The warchief answered to the chief and their council - who led the Great Forest orcs- but was free to act as they see fit in pursuit of the goals the chief and council set forth. The army has since been disbanded - the day to day requirements for the orcs to hunt and build take precedence over the need for a standing army, and as guests of the Empire they have no real ability to maintain such a large force of warriors anyway.

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History

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	According to the orcs, the [[Great Forest of Peytaht]] that covers the western Barrens and northern [[Reikos]] once covered much of the area now occupied by the Empire as well reaching as far north as the mountains of [[Otkodov]], and as far west as the kingdoms of the [[Jotun]]. They claim that their ancestors lived throughout the forest, long before the first humans came and began to cut the trees down. Regardless of the truth of these claims the Great Forest is today very much reduced - as are the people named for it.		According to the orcs, the [[Great Forest of Peytaht]] that covers the western Barrens and northern [[Reikos]] once covered much of the area now occupied by the Empire as well reaching as far north as the mountains of [[Otkodov]], and as far west as the kingdoms of the [[Jotun]]. They claim that their ancestors lived throughout the forest, long before the first humans came and began to cut the trees down. Regardless of the truth of these claims the Great Forest is today very much reduced - as are the people named for it.

	For the last five hundred years or so, the Great Forest orcs lived in the Barrens, claiming the [[The_Barrens#Heart_of_Peytaht\|Heart of Peytaht]] itself of course, but also the [[The_Barrens#The_Untrod_Groves\|Untrod Groves]] and the [[The_Barrens#The_Bleaks\|Bleaks]]. They lived alongside the other independent orcs- the Black Wind, the Vendarri, and others whose names have been lost to history. From time to time they fought among themselves, against the [[Druj]], and against the people of [[Dawn]] and Navarr.		For the last five hundred years or so, the Great Forest orcs lived in the Barrens, claiming the [[The_Barrens#Heart_of_Peytaht\|Heart of Peytaht]] itself of course, but also the [[The_Barrens#The_Untrod_Groves\|Untrod Groves]] and the [[The_Barrens#The_Bleaks\|Bleaks]]. They lived alongside the other independent orcs- the Black Wind, the Vendarri, the Karass, and others whose names have been lost to history. From time to time they fought among themselves, against the [[Druj]], and against the people of [[Dawn]] and Navarr.

	Their freedom came to a decisive end a little over a century ago when the Druj pushed into the Barrens and conquered the territory. Most were enslaved, but some of the orcs fled west into [[Brocéliande]], living as bandits in [[Brocéliande#Boar's Dell\|Boar's Dell]] and [[Brocéliande#Elerael\|Elerael]]. There are a few rumours of relatively peaceful trade between the barbarian settlements and some of the [[steading\|steadings]] but they largely avoided the Navarr. Those living in Elerael were brutally suppressed when the Druj pushed into that region following their invasion of [[Reikos]], but the orcs in the northern part of the territory lived in relative peace until 378YE.		Their freedom came to a decisive end a little over a century ago when the Druj pushed into the Barrens and conquered the territory. Most were enslaved, but some of the orcs fled west into [[Brocéliande]], living as bandits in [[Brocéliande#Boar's Dell\|Boar's Dell]] and [[Brocéliande#Elerael\|Elerael]]. There are a few rumours of relatively peaceful trade between the barbarian settlements and some of the [[steading\|steadings]] but they largely avoided the Navarr. Those living in Elerael were brutally suppressed when the Druj pushed into that region following their invasion of [[Reikos]], but the orcs in the northern part of the territory lived in relative peace until 378YE.

Twiggy at 18:20, 18 February 2026

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	When they arrived in Therunin, the Great Forest Orcs supported a standard [[Army\|campaign army]] under the command of a warchief (a rank analogous to an Imperial [[general]]). The warchief answered to the chief and their council - who led the Great Forest orcs- but was free to act as they see fit in pursuit of the goals the chief and council set forth. The army has since been disbanded - the day to day requirements for the orcs to hunt and build take precedence over the need for a standing army, and as guests of the Empire they have no real ability to maintain such a large force of warriors anyway.		When they arrived in Therunin, the Great Forest Orcs supported a standard [[Army\|campaign army]] under the command of a warchief (a rank analogous to an Imperial [[general]]). The warchief answered to the chief and their council - who led the Great Forest orcs- but was free to act as they see fit in pursuit of the goals the chief and council set forth. The army has since been disbanded - the day to day requirements for the orcs to hunt and build take precedence over the need for a standing army, and as guests of the Empire they have no real ability to maintain such a large force of warriors anyway.

	'''Chief ~~Valack~~''' still remains the warchief of the Great Forest Orcs, however, and may be contacted by [[Call Winged Messenger\|Winged Messenger]] at the ''Great Forest Encampment, Lower Tarn Valley, Therunin'' for the time being. While the Great Forest Orcs disbanded the army their warriors did not abandon their weapons or their armour. Half chose to maintain combat readiness, guarding their people from the dangers of the forest of Therunin - which is, after all, a Navarr territory. Giant insects, alligators, and the occasional vallorn spawn threaten the orcs just as they threaten their human neighbours. These warriors call themselves the Spears of the Pines.		'''Chief Vallack''' still remains the warchief of the Great Forest Orcs, however, and may be contacted by [[Call Winged Messenger\|Winged Messenger]] at the ''Great Forest Encampment, Lower Tarn Valley, Therunin'' for the time being. While the Great Forest Orcs disbanded the army their warriors did not abandon their weapons or their armour. Half chose to maintain combat readiness, guarding their people from the dangers of the forest of Therunin - which is, after all, a Navarr territory. Giant insects, alligators, and the occasional vallorn spawn threaten the orcs just as they threaten their human neighbours. These warriors call themselves the Spears of the Pines.
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	<box>'''Calling the Spears of the Pines'''<br>		<box>'''Calling the Spears of the Pines'''<br>

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	===Military===		===Military===
	When they arrived in Therunin, the Great Forest Orcs supported a standard [[~~Imperial army~~\|campaign army]] under the command of a warchief (a rank analogous to an Imperial [[general]]). The warchief answered to the chief and their council - who led the Great Forest orcs- but was free to act as they see fit in pursuit of the goals the chief and council set forth. The army has since been disbanded - the day to day requirements for the orcs to hunt and build take precedence over the need for a standing army, and as guests of the Empire they have no real ability to maintain such a large force of warriors anyway.		When they arrived in Therunin, the Great Forest Orcs supported a standard [[Army\|campaign army]] under the command of a warchief (a rank analogous to an Imperial [[general]]). The warchief answered to the chief and their council - who led the Great Forest orcs- but was free to act as they see fit in pursuit of the goals the chief and council set forth. The army has since been disbanded - the day to day requirements for the orcs to hunt and build take precedence over the need for a standing army, and as guests of the Empire they have no real ability to maintain such a large force of warriors anyway.

	'''Chief Valack''' still remains the warchief of the Great Forest Orcs, however, and may be contacted by [[Call Winged Messenger\|Winged Messenger]] at the ''Great Forest Encampment, Lower Tarn Valley, Therunin'' for the time being. While the Great Forest Orcs disbanded the army their warriors did not abandon their weapons or their armour. Half chose to maintain combat readiness, guarding their people from the dangers of the forest of Therunin - which is, after all, a Navarr territory. Giant insects, alligators, and the occasional vallorn spawn threaten the orcs just as they threaten their human neighbours. These warriors call themselves the Spears of the Pines.		'''Chief Valack''' still remains the warchief of the Great Forest Orcs, however, and may be contacted by [[Call Winged Messenger\|Winged Messenger]] at the ''Great Forest Encampment, Lower Tarn Valley, Therunin'' for the time being. While the Great Forest Orcs disbanded the army their warriors did not abandon their weapons or their armour. Half chose to maintain combat readiness, guarding their people from the dangers of the forest of Therunin - which is, after all, a Navarr territory. Giant insects, alligators, and the occasional vallorn spawn threaten the orcs just as they threaten their human neighbours. These warriors call themselves the Spears of the Pines.

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	Their enslavement and exile came to an end in Winter 377YE when an Imperial force ambushed and slaughtered the Druj leaders in the Barrens. This triggered an armed revolt among the subjects led by the Great Forest and the Black Wind. The rebellious orcs engaged in a campaign of slaughter against every Druj enclave they could find. Druj prisoners were generally hung from the nearest branch capable of holding their weight, leading to horrifying encounters with literally dozens of dead orcs hanging from hempen nooses wherever the two orc factions clashed. They appeared unconcerned with the Dawnish citizens in Dawnguard, but once the Druj were dealt with their attention turned to relations with the Empire.		Their enslavement and exile came to an end in Winter 377YE when an Imperial force ambushed and slaughtered the Druj leaders in the Barrens. This triggered an armed revolt among the subjects led by the Great Forest and the Black Wind. The rebellious orcs engaged in a campaign of slaughter against every Druj enclave they could find. Druj prisoners were generally hung from the nearest branch capable of holding their weight, leading to horrifying encounters with literally dozens of dead orcs hanging from hempen nooses wherever the two orc factions clashed. They appeared unconcerned with the Dawnish citizens in Dawnguard, but once the Druj were dealt with their attention turned to relations with the Empire.

	Throughout 378YE, the orc settlers from the Barrens retreated out of Brocéliande, leaving their makeshift camps to fall into disuse or be overrun by vallornspawn. Then, during the Spring Equinox 379YE, the [[~~Imperial~~ Senate]] passed a motion [[Declare peace with Barrens orcs\|declaring the three orc peoples in the Barrens to be foreigners]], rather than barbarians. This meant - among other things - that while the orcs of the Barrens are recognised as foreigners, any invasion of their lands by Imperial troops would be a criminal offence. During Summer of the same year, a [[Green_and_pleasant_lands\|delegation of indigenous orcs]] came to [[Casinea#Anvil\|Anvil]], with the assistance of the Navarr of Brocéliande. They engaged in extensive diplomacy and negotiation in pursuit of a treaty between the Empire and their nascent nation. However the negotiations failed when the treaty was rejected by the Senate.		Throughout 378YE, the orc settlers from the Barrens retreated out of Brocéliande, leaving their makeshift camps to fall into disuse or be overrun by vallornspawn. Then, during the Spring Equinox 379YE, the [[Senate]] passed a motion [[Declare peace with Barrens orcs\|declaring the three orc peoples in the Barrens to be foreigners]], rather than barbarians. This meant - among other things - that while the orcs of the Barrens are recognised as foreigners, any invasion of their lands by Imperial troops would be a criminal offence. During Summer of the same year, a [[Green_and_pleasant_lands\|delegation of indigenous orcs]] came to [[Casinea#Anvil\|Anvil]], with the assistance of the Navarr of Brocéliande. They engaged in extensive diplomacy and negotiation in pursuit of a treaty between the Empire and their nascent nation. However the negotiations failed when the treaty was rejected by the Senate.

	In Autumn 379YE, the Great Forest orcs were part of a larger force that attempted to [[379YE_Autumn_Equinox_winds_of_war#Angry_Orcs\|claim Dawnguard from the Dawnish]]. This sparked [[379YE_Winter_Solstice_winds_of_war#The_Thunder_of_the_Barrens\|months of bitter fighting]] in the Barrens, leading to a [[380YE_Spring_Equinox_winds_of_war#Under_a_Crimson_Sky\|counterattack]] that [[380YE_Summer_Solstice_winds_of_war#The_Conquest_of_the_Barrens\|pushed the indigenous orcs back]].		In Autumn 379YE, the Great Forest orcs were part of a larger force that attempted to [[379YE_Autumn_Equinox_winds_of_war#Angry_Orcs\|claim Dawnguard from the Dawnish]]. This sparked [[379YE_Winter_Solstice_winds_of_war#The_Thunder_of_the_Barrens\|months of bitter fighting]] in the Barrens, leading to a [[380YE_Spring_Equinox_winds_of_war#Under_a_Crimson_Sky\|counterattack]] that [[380YE_Summer_Solstice_winds_of_war#The_Conquest_of_the_Barrens\|pushed the indigenous orcs back]].

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	Any Imperial character is free to create stories of interactions with the Great Forest Orcs if they wish, as long as they bear certain considerations in mind.		Any Imperial character is free to create stories of interactions with the Great Forest Orcs if they wish, as long as they bear certain considerations in mind.

	The Great Forest Orcs are centred in the Lower Tarn Valley, but their people will spread out throughout Therunin over the coming months into every region that is not occupied by the [[~~Vallorn~~]] (every region except Greenheart and Sweetglades). They will not build permanent settlements outside of the Lower Tarn Valley unless explicitly invited to do so by Navarr steadings. Their hunting parties will, however, be encountered in all parts of the territory.		The Great Forest Orcs are centred in the Lower Tarn Valley, but their people will spread out throughout Therunin over the coming months into every region that is not occupied by the [[vallorn]] (every region except Greenheart and Sweetglades). They will not build permanent settlements outside of the Lower Tarn Valley unless explicitly invited to do so by Navarr steadings. Their hunting parties will, however, be encountered in all parts of the territory.

	Whenever they are encountered, they are guarded but cautiously friendly to the Navarr. They are cordial to Imperial Orcs, in all ways treating them as equals. With representatives of other nations, they are cool and aloof and will not voluntarily spend time around them. The exception is the Dawnish - it is clear they have little love for them. They abide by Imperial law as they understand it, and they do their level best not to infringe on Navarr hunting grounds uninvited.		Whenever they are encountered, they are guarded but cautiously friendly to the Navarr. They are cordial to Imperial Orcs, in all ways treating them as equals. With representatives of other nations, they are cool and aloof and will not voluntarily spend time around them. The exception is the Dawnish - it is clear they have little love for them. They abide by Imperial law as they understand it, and they do their level best not to infringe on Navarr hunting grounds uninvited.