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Twiggy at 16:07, 16 March 2026

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	* '''Mareave contains a mithril mine and is considered by the Grendel to be part of the Broken Shore'''		* '''Mareave contains a mithril mine and is considered by the Grendel to be part of the Broken Shore'''
	* '''Further hostility from the Grendel is inevitable'''		* '''Further hostility from the Grendel is inevitable'''
	As the historians of the [[Historical_research#The_Department_of_Historical_Research\|Department of Historical Research]] laid out in ''[[Mareave and Urizen]]'', the Grendel have [[Mareave_and_Urizen#Imperial_Records\|dominated Mareave]] since the time of [[Emperor Nicovar]]. The [[Mareave#Fundindelve\|Fundindelve]] is a major source of [[mithril]], and the Grendel Salt Lords seem to value mithril over everything save perhaps [[weirwood]]. Like ~~Kalliact~~ before him, former Salt Lord Ehsan's place on the ruling council of the Grendel was contingent on control of the mithril mine - which is now reasonably firmly in Imperial hands.		As the historians of the [[Historical_research#The_Department_of_Historical_Research\|Department of Historical Research]] laid out in ''[[Mareave and Urizen]]'', the Grendel have [[Mareave_and_Urizen#Imperial_Records\|dominated Mareave]] since the time of [[Emperor Nicovar]]. The [[Mareave#Fundindelve\|Fundindelve]] is a major source of [[mithril]], and the Grendel Salt Lords seem to value mithril over everything save perhaps [[weirwood]]. Like Kaliact before him, former Salt Lord Ehsan's place on the ruling council of the Grendel was contingent on control of the mithril mine - which is now reasonably firmly in Imperial hands.

	Even leaving aside the fact that three regions of the territory remain at least notionally in the hands of the Grendel, it is ''very'' unlikely that the Grendel plan to give up on Mareave without a fight. Unlike [[Spiral]], which they have been understandably cautious about invading despite developments in [[Spiral#Apulian\|Apulian]], they are certain to attempt to reclaim the territory. Even if it can be held in the short-term, Mareave will form a frontier with the Grendel in the same way Spiral once did. Indeed, there is some news beginning to filter into Imperial lands that there is not one but ''two'' Grendel-held territories adjacent to southern Mareave underlining the need for the Imperial Military Council to give careful thought to how the territory might best be protected.		Even leaving aside the fact that three regions of the territory remain at least notionally in the hands of the Grendel, it is ''very'' unlikely that the Grendel plan to give up on Mareave without a fight. Unlike [[Spiral]], which they have been understandably cautious about invading despite developments in [[Spiral#Apulian\|Apulian]], they are certain to attempt to reclaim the territory. Even if it can be held in the short-term, Mareave will form a frontier with the Grendel in the same way Spiral once did. Indeed, there is some news beginning to filter into Imperial lands that there is not one but ''two'' Grendel-held territories adjacent to southern Mareave underlining the need for the Imperial Military Council to give careful thought to how the territory might best be protected.

Matt: Text replacement - "[[Imperial Senate" to "[[Senate"

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Text replacement - "[[Imperial Senate" to "[[Senate"

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	<div style="float:left; width: 400px; clear: right;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Mareave Map.png\|caption=There are three primary factions in Mareave; the Empire in the north, Beoraidh in the west, and the Brine Turtles in the south.\|align=left\|width=400}}</div>{{audio\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zfwtLjRitI}}		<div style="float:left; width: 400px; clear: right;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Mareave Map.png\|caption=There are three primary factions in Mareave; the Empire in the north, Beoraidh in the west, and the Brine Turtles in the south.\|align=left\|width=400}}</div>{{audio\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zfwtLjRitI}}
	==Overview==		==Overview==
	The most recent season of war saw Imperial forces victorious in [[Mareave]]. Their conquest of [[Mareave#Clisearn\|Clisearn]] has turned the tide in the eastern Grendel territory. It is now the business of the [[~~Imperial~~ Senate]] to [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Assignment\|assign]] the territory to one of the Imperial nations. Recent victories in territories as diverse as [[Skarsind]], [[Holberg]], [[Segura]], and the [[Mournwold]] have been reasonably straightforward; these were territories that had been Imperial in the past and where numbers of Imperial citizens lived.		The most recent season of war saw Imperial forces victorious in [[Mareave]]. Their conquest of [[Mareave#Clisearn\|Clisearn]] has turned the tide in the eastern Grendel territory. It is now the business of the [[Senate]] to [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Assignment\|assign]] the territory to one of the Imperial nations. Recent victories in territories as diverse as [[Skarsind]], [[Holberg]], [[Segura]], and the [[Mournwold]] have been reasonably straightforward; these were territories that had been Imperial in the past and where numbers of Imperial citizens lived.

	Mareave, however, is more like [[Ossium]] and [[the Barrens]] - territories that have never been part of the Empire before. The Barrens had long had a Dawnish presence, but the citizens of [[The_Barrens#Dawnguard\|Dawnguard]] were far from the majority. When Ossium was conquered there were ''no'' Imperial citizens and the territory had no history of ever being Varushkan. While Varushkans have settled there since then it took a year or more of careful work by politicians and priests to settle many of the issues.		Mareave, however, is more like [[Ossium]] and [[the Barrens]] - territories that have never been part of the Empire before. The Barrens had long had a Dawnish presence, but the citizens of [[The_Barrens#Dawnguard\|Dawnguard]] were far from the majority. When Ossium was conquered there were ''no'' Imperial citizens and the territory had no history of ever being Varushkan. While Varushkans have settled there since then it took a year or more of careful work by politicians and priests to settle many of the issues.
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	'''Note:''' Declaring any faction of Mareave to be foreigners will make it a crime for any general to issue orders to attack them or their homes. If Ehsan and his people are recognised as foreigners, it will be a crime to attack Beoraidh or Sinfoyard. If the Brine Turtle are recognised as foreigners it will be a crime to attack Fleisardh with armies, unless the Brine Turtle have surrendered the region.		'''Note:''' Declaring any faction of Mareave to be foreigners will make it a crime for any general to issue orders to attack them or their homes. If Ehsan and his people are recognised as foreigners, it will be a crime to attack Beoraidh or Sinfoyard. If the Brine Turtle are recognised as foreigners it will be a crime to attack Fleisardh with armies, unless the Brine Turtle have surrendered the region.
	==Resolution==		==Resolution==
	The [[~~Imperial~~ Senate]] ultimately [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Allocation\|allocated]] Mareave as a territory of the [[Imperial Orcs]]; the second such territory controlled by that nation. Senators also chose to [[386YE_Spring_Equinox_Senate_sessions#Ratify_Treaty_with_Beoraidh\|ratify a treaty]] with the orcs of Beoraidh, recognising them as foreigners with a claim to both Beoraidh and Sinfoyard.		The [[Senate]] ultimately [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Allocation\|allocated]] Mareave as a territory of the [[Imperial Orcs]]; the second such territory controlled by that nation. Senators also chose to [[386YE_Spring_Equinox_Senate_sessions#Ratify_Treaty_with_Beoraidh\|ratify a treaty]] with the orcs of Beoraidh, recognising them as foreigners with a claim to both Beoraidh and Sinfoyard.

	==Further Reading==		==Further Reading==

Dre: /* Resolution */

2024-06-26T11:12:48Z

Resolution

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	'''Note:''' Declaring any faction of Mareave to be foreigners will make it a crime for any general to issue orders to attack them or their homes. If Ehsan and his people are recognised as foreigners, it will be a crime to attack Beoraidh or Sinfoyard. If the Brine Turtle are recognised as foreigners it will be a crime to attack Fleisardh with armies, unless the Brine Turtle have surrendered the region.		'''Note:''' Declaring any faction of Mareave to be foreigners will make it a crime for any general to issue orders to attack them or their homes. If Ehsan and his people are recognised as foreigners, it will be a crime to attack Beoraidh or Sinfoyard. If the Brine Turtle are recognised as foreigners it will be a crime to attack Fleisardh with armies, unless the Brine Turtle have surrendered the region.
	==Resolution==		==Resolution==
	The [[Imperial Senate]] ultimately [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Allocation\|allocated]] as a territory of the [[Imperial Orcs]]; the second such territory controlled by that nation. Senators also chose to [[386YE_Spring_Equinox_Senate_sessions#Ratify_Treaty_with_Beoraidh\|ratify a treaty]] with the orcs of Beoraidh, recognising them as foreigners with a claim to both Beoraidh and Sinfoyard.		The [[Imperial Senate]] ultimately [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Allocation\|allocated]] Mareave as a territory of the [[Imperial Orcs]]; the second such territory controlled by that nation. Senators also chose to [[386YE_Spring_Equinox_Senate_sessions#Ratify_Treaty_with_Beoraidh\|ratify a treaty]] with the orcs of Beoraidh, recognising them as foreigners with a claim to both Beoraidh and Sinfoyard.

	==Further Reading==		==Further Reading==

Rafferty: /* The Former Salt Lord */

2024-06-26T10:06:43Z

The Former Salt Lord

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	'''Note:''' Declaring any faction of Mareave to be foreigners will make it a crime for any general to issue orders to attack them or their homes. If Ehsan and his people are recognised as foreigners, it will be a crime to attack Beoraidh or Sinfoyard. If the Brine Turtle are recognised as foreigners it will be a crime to attack Fleisardh with armies, unless the Brine Turtle have surrendered the region.		'''Note:''' Declaring any faction of Mareave to be foreigners will make it a crime for any general to issue orders to attack them or their homes. If Ehsan and his people are recognised as foreigners, it will be a crime to attack Beoraidh or Sinfoyard. If the Brine Turtle are recognised as foreigners it will be a crime to attack Fleisardh with armies, unless the Brine Turtle have surrendered the region.
			==Resolution==
			The [[Imperial Senate]] ultimately [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Allocation\|allocated]] as a territory of the [[Imperial Orcs]]; the second such territory controlled by that nation. Senators also chose to [[386YE_Spring_Equinox_Senate_sessions#Ratify_Treaty_with_Beoraidh\|ratify a treaty]] with the orcs of Beoraidh, recognising them as foreigners with a claim to both Beoraidh and Sinfoyard.

	==Further Reading==		==Further Reading==

Novemberalice at 08:43, 11 June 2024

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	The last was spoken quietly, almost as if it was for Verruk alone. Yantl frowned and looked askance at his friend; he knew she'd been angered by some of the foolish comments from other soldiers during the early months of the invasion but he thought they'd moved past it. The Sannite's face was unreadable. She gazed off into the middle distance, sipping her spiced tea.</ic>		The last was spoken quietly, almost as if it was for Verruk alone. Yantl frowned and looked askance at his friend; he knew she'd been angered by some of the foolish comments from other soldiers during the early months of the invasion but he thought they'd moved past it. The Sannite's face was unreadable. She gazed off into the middle distance, sipping her spiced tea.</ic>
	<div style="float:left; width: 400px; clear: right;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Mareave Map.png\|caption=There are three primary factions in Mareave; the Empire in the north, Beoraidh in the west, and the Brine Turtles in the south.\|align=left\|width=400}}</div>		<div style="float:left; width: 400px; clear: right;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Mareave Map.png\|caption=There are three primary factions in Mareave; the Empire in the north, Beoraidh in the west, and the Brine Turtles in the south.\|align=left\|width=400}}</div>{{audio\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zfwtLjRitI}}
	==Overview==		==Overview==
	The most recent season of war saw Imperial forces victorious in [[Mareave]]. Their conquest of [[Mareave#Clisearn\|Clisearn]] has turned the tide in the eastern Grendel territory. It is now the business of the [[Imperial Senate]] to [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Assignment\|assign]] the territory to one of the Imperial nations. Recent victories in territories as diverse as [[Skarsind]], [[Holberg]], [[Segura]], and the [[Mournwold]] have been reasonably straightforward; these were territories that had been Imperial in the past and where numbers of Imperial citizens lived.		The most recent season of war saw Imperial forces victorious in [[Mareave]]. Their conquest of [[Mareave#Clisearn\|Clisearn]] has turned the tide in the eastern Grendel territory. It is now the business of the [[Imperial Senate]] to [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Assignment\|assign]] the territory to one of the Imperial nations. Recent victories in territories as diverse as [[Skarsind]], [[Holberg]], [[Segura]], and the [[Mournwold]] have been reasonably straightforward; these were territories that had been Imperial in the past and where numbers of Imperial citizens lived.

Dre at 22:30, 7 June 2024

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	"We've beaten the Grendel and now these people are free to become Imperial citizens. What don't I understand?" Yantl spoke a little more hotly than he intended. Getting his emotions under control took a little effort, and he hid it by sipping her hot spiced tea. It was very good. He suspected Eft would enjoy it as well and made a mental note to pick some up to take home with him.		"We've beaten the Grendel and now these people are free to become Imperial citizens. What don't I understand?" Yantl spoke a little more hotly than he intended. Getting his emotions under control took a little effort, and he hid it by sipping her hot spiced tea. It was very good. He suspected Eft would enjoy it as well and made a mental note to pick some up to take home with him.

	"Sure, we know that. But the Grendel aren't the Druj. These people don't live in fear, they're not slaves - most of them. As long as they pay their taxes, and keep up their ~~levvy~~, they just... get on with stuff. You think Beoraidh cares about a shithole like Rathmonna? You think the Brine Turtles even knew this place existed before they arrived here with thousands of Imperial warriors on their arses? As long as the money keeps coming in, and the 'Jaws have a good crop of drakes each year, they just..."		"Sure, we know that. But the Grendel aren't the Druj. These people don't live in fear, they're not slaves - most of them. As long as they pay their taxes, and keep up their levy, they just... get on with stuff. You think Beoraidh cares about a shithole like Rathmonna? You think the Brine Turtles even knew this place existed before they arrived here with thousands of Imperial warriors on their arses? As long as the money keeps coming in, and the 'Jaws have a good crop of drakes each year, they just..."

	The Sannite gestured vaguely. She shrugged.		The Sannite gestured vaguely. She shrugged.
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	To assist with the assignment the Civil Service has asked the Speaker for the Senate to raise an administrative motion during the Saturday evening session. Any senator can then make the case for the territory to be assigned to their nation. Once the debate is concluded, the Speaker will invite Senate to vote on which of the options presented they wish to support. If the Senate does ''not'' want to assign the territory at this time, they may vote for "no nation." If this happens, the Civil Service will raise the administrative motion again at the Summer Solstice.		To assist with the assignment the Civil Service has asked the Speaker for the Senate to raise an administrative motion during the Saturday evening session. Any senator can then make the case for the territory to be assigned to their nation. Once the debate is concluded, the Speaker will invite Senate to vote on which of the options presented they wish to support. If the Senate does ''not'' want to assign the territory at this time, they may vote for "no nation." If this happens, the Civil Service will raise the administrative motion again at the Summer Solstice.

	Regardless of the outcome, there will be no Senatorial election at the summit where the territory is assigned. It takes time to arrange a senatorial election. The senatorial election will be arranged for the summit ''after'' the assignment is concluded. This delay will not impede the ability to perform rituals ~~effecting~~ Mareave from the [[Regio#The_Imperial_Regio\|Imperial regio]]. At the point the territory became eligible to appoint a Senator, the metaphysical rules governing the regio at Anvil make it possible to affect the territory even though it has not yet been assigned.		Regardless of the outcome, there will be no Senatorial election at the summit where the territory is assigned. It takes time to arrange a senatorial election. The senatorial election will be arranged for the summit ''after'' the assignment is concluded. This delay will not impede the ability to perform rituals affecting Mareave from the [[Regio#The_Imperial_Regio\|Imperial regio]]. At the point the territory became eligible to appoint a Senator, the metaphysical rules governing the regio at Anvil make it possible to affect the territory even though it has not yet been assigned.

	Regardless of whether they assign the territory or not, the Senate may choose to [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Allocation\|allocate]] the [[Mareave#Fundindelve\|Fundindelve]] [[mithril]] mine. As with the [[Chilled_to_the_bone#The_Crawling_Depths\|Crawling Depths]], if they allocate the mine as a national position without assigning the territory, they would need to choose an Imperial nation to take temporary custody of it. This does not tie the hands of the Senate however. Once the territory were assigned, the mine would automatically become the legal responsibility of whichever nation takes control of Mareave. If the mithril mine is allocated during the Spring Equinox, it will be available for appointment at the Summer Solstice for a single season before falling into the usual pattern of Autumn appointment alongside the other mithril resources.		Regardless of whether they assign the territory or not, the Senate may choose to [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Allocation\|allocate]] the [[Mareave#Fundindelve\|Fundindelve]] [[mithril]] mine. As with the [[Chilled_to_the_bone#The_Crawling_Depths\|Crawling Depths]], if they allocate the mine as a national position without assigning the territory, they would need to choose an Imperial nation to take temporary custody of it. This does not tie the hands of the Senate however. Once the territory were assigned, the mine would automatically become the legal responsibility of whichever nation takes control of Mareave. If the mithril mine is allocated during the Spring Equinox, it will be available for appointment at the Summer Solstice for a single season before falling into the usual pattern of Autumn appointment alongside the other mithril resources.

Hailmur at 22:11, 7 June 2024

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	One thing the Empire has already noticed is that the people here are ''very'' political in nature. There's already been signs of deep divides between the various orc factions and with the rest of the Grendel. Imperial heroes have already dabbled in the [[Between_stone_and_salt#Politics_of_Mareave_(Battle)\|politics of Mareave]], and shortly before the Spring Equinox there is a [[Sea-wood_fed_with_copper#Warp_and_Weft\|further development]] involving the former-Salt-Lord ruler of Beoraidh, Ehsan.		One thing the Empire has already noticed is that the people here are ''very'' political in nature. There's already been signs of deep divides between the various orc factions and with the rest of the Grendel. Imperial heroes have already dabbled in the [[Between_stone_and_salt#Politics_of_Mareave_(Battle)\|politics of Mareave]], and shortly before the Spring Equinox there is a [[Sea-wood_fed_with_copper#Warp_and_Weft\|further development]] involving the former-Salt-Lord ruler of Beoraidh, Ehsan.

	While the people of Beoraidh are not prepared to surrender to the Empire or "betray their ancestors in the manner of the former Salt Lord of Apulus", they are still apparently very angry indeed with their fellow Grendel. Ehsan has sent emissaries to the armies, indicating that if the Empire will recognise him and his people as foreigners, then he is prepared to withdraw all forces under his control to Beoraidh and Sinfoyard. He and those who look to him for leadership will cease all hostilities, looking to the defence of their city and lands against possible reprisals from his former peers. They won't contest Imperial control of Mareave, and will be neutral to ''both'' sides in the conquest of the Broken Shore.		While the people of Beoraidh are not prepared to surrender to the Empire or "betray their ancestors in the manner of the former Salt Lord of Apulus", they are still apparently very angry indeed with their fellow Grendel. Ehsan has sent emissaries to the armies, indicating that if the Empire will use a [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Declaration_of_Peace\|declaration of peace]] to recognise him and his people as [[Imperial_Law_Overview#Individuals_and_the_law\|foreigners]], then he is prepared to withdraw all forces under his control to Beoraidh and Sinfoyard. He and those who look to him for leadership will cease all hostilities, looking to the defence of their city and lands against possible reprisals from his former peers. They won't contest Imperial control of Mareave, and will be neutral to ''both'' sides in the conquest of the Broken Shore.

	In addition to offering interesting military intelligence that might allow the Empire to neutralise the threat of the Brine Turtles, Ehsan has issued an edict freeing the handful of slaves remaining in Beoraidh and Sinfoyard. Their statements offer some insight into a matter that has apparently been a growing problem for some time; slaves have been increasingly hard to procure and prices have spiralled as a result. While a few salt lords have clung to old practices, the smart ones, like Ehsan, have switched to employing folk to do the work. Ehsan is completely sanguine about this fact, they and their fellow salt lords don't see this as a moral issue, just a simple matter of profit and loss.		In addition to offering interesting military intelligence that might allow the Empire to neutralise the threat of the Brine Turtles, Ehsan has issued an edict freeing the handful of slaves remaining in Beoraidh and Sinfoyard. Their statements offer some insight into a matter that has apparently been a growing problem for some time; slaves have been increasingly hard to procure and prices have spiralled as a result. While a few salt lords have clung to old practices, the smart ones, like Ehsan, have switched to employing folk to do the work. Ehsan is completely sanguine about this fact, they and their fellow salt lords don't see this as a moral issue, just a simple matter of profit and loss.

Noserenda at 21:56, 7 June 2024

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Hastur: /* Assignment and Allocation */

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Assignment and Allocation

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	To assist with the assignment the Civil Service has asked the Speaker for the Senate to raise an administrative motion during the Saturday evening session. Any senator can then make the case for the territory to be assigned to their nation. Once the debate is concluded, the Speaker will invite Senate to vote on which of the options presented they wish to support. If the Senate does ''not'' want to assign the territory at this time, they may vote for "no nation." If this happens, the Civil Service will raise the administrative motion again at the Summer Solstice.		To assist with the assignment the Civil Service has asked the Speaker for the Senate to raise an administrative motion during the Saturday evening session. Any senator can then make the case for the territory to be assigned to their nation. Once the debate is concluded, the Speaker will invite Senate to vote on which of the options presented they wish to support. If the Senate does ''not'' want to assign the territory at this time, they may vote for "no nation." If this happens, the Civil Service will raise the administrative motion again at the Summer Solstice.

	Regardless of the outcome, there will be no Senatorial election at the summit where the territory is assigned. It takes time to arrange a senatorial election. The senatorial election will be arranged for the summit ''after'' the assignment is concluded. This delay will not impede the ability to perform rituals effecting Mareave from [[Regio#The_Imperial_Regio\|Imperial regio]]. At the point the territory became eligible to appoint a Senator, the metaphysical rules governing the regio at Anvil make it possible to affect the territory even though it has not yet been assigned.		Regardless of the outcome, there will be no Senatorial election at the summit where the territory is assigned. It takes time to arrange a senatorial election. The senatorial election will be arranged for the summit ''after'' the assignment is concluded. This delay will not impede the ability to perform rituals effecting Mareave from the [[Regio#The_Imperial_Regio\|Imperial regio]]. At the point the territory became eligible to appoint a Senator, the metaphysical rules governing the regio at Anvil make it possible to affect the territory even though it has not yet been assigned.

	Regardless of whether they assign the territory or not, the Senate may choose to [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Allocation\|allocate]] the [[Mareave#Fundindelve\|Fundindelve]] [[mithril]] mine. As with the [[Chilled_to_the_bone#The_Crawling_Depths\|Crawling Depths]], if they allocate the mine as a national position without assigning the territory, they would need to choose an Imperial nation to take temporary custody of it. This does not tie the hands of the Senate however. Once the territory were assigned, the mine would automatically become the legal responsibility of whichever nation takes control of Mareave. If the mithril mine is allocated during the Spring Equinox, it will be avaiable for appointment at the Summer Solstice for a single season before falling into the usual pattern of Autumn appointment alongside the other mithril resources.		Regardless of whether they assign the territory or not, the Senate may choose to [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Allocation\|allocate]] the [[Mareave#Fundindelve\|Fundindelve]] [[mithril]] mine. As with the [[Chilled_to_the_bone#The_Crawling_Depths\|Crawling Depths]], if they allocate the mine as a national position without assigning the territory, they would need to choose an Imperial nation to take temporary custody of it. This does not tie the hands of the Senate however. Once the territory were assigned, the mine would automatically become the legal responsibility of whichever nation takes control of Mareave. If the mithril mine is allocated during the Spring Equinox, it will be avaiable for appointment at the Summer Solstice for a single season before falling into the usual pattern of Autumn appointment alongside the other mithril resources.

Coolbeans: /* The Former Salt Lord */

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The Former Salt Lord

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	In addition to offering interesting military intelligence that might allow the Empire to neutralise the threat of the Brine Turtles, Ehsan has issued an edict freeing the handful of slaves remaining in Beoraidh and Sinfoyard. Their statements offer some insight into a matter that has apparently been a growing problem for some time; slaves have been increasingly hard to procure and prices have spiralled as a result. While a few salt lords have clung to old practices, the smart ones, like Ehsan, have switched to employing folk to do the work. Ehsan is completely sanguine about this fact, they and their fellow salt lords don't see this as a moral issue, just a simple matter of profit and loss.		In addition to offering interesting military intelligence that might allow the Empire to neutralise the threat of the Brine Turtles, Ehsan has issued an edict freeing the handful of slaves remaining in Beoraidh and Sinfoyard. Their statements offer some insight into a matter that has apparently been a growing problem for some time; slaves have been increasingly hard to procure and prices have spiralled as a result. While a few salt lords have clung to old practices, the smart ones, like Ehsan, have switched to employing folk to do the work. Ehsan is completely sanguine about this fact, they and their fellow salt lords don't see this as a moral issue, just a simple matter of profit and loss.

	If the Senate does recognise the orcs of Beoraidh and Sinfoyard as foreigners, which they can do with a single Senate motion, then Ehsan says there will be ample opportunity to discuss trade treaties once the fighting in Mareave is done. They'r also prepared to offer sanctuary to any Broken Shore orcs who did not wish to become subjects of the Empire - which might avoid further bloodshed.		If the Senate does recognise the orcs of Beoraidh and Sinfoyard as foreigners, which they can do with a single Senate motion, then Ehsan says there will be ample opportunity to discuss trade treaties once the fighting in Mareave is done. They're also prepared to offer sanctuary to any Broken Shore orcs who did not wish to become subjects of the Empire - which might avoid further bloodshed.

	It would also be possible to recognise the Broken Shore orcs in the northern regions as foreigners at the same time, with the same motion. This would be the first step towards establishing peaceful contact with the minor septs of Icarion, Nadir, and [[Mareave#Eoradal\|Eoradal]]. It would prevent the Imperial armies attacking these orcs - but it wouldn't impede their ability or the ability of Imperial citizens to defend themselves if they were attacked.		It would also be possible to recognise the Broken Shore orcs in the northern regions as foreigners at the same time, with the same motion. This would be the first step towards establishing peaceful contact with the minor septs of Icarion, Nadir, and [[Mareave#Eoradal\|Eoradal]]. It would prevent the Imperial armies attacking these orcs - but it wouldn't impede their ability or the ability of Imperial citizens to defend themselves if they were attacked.

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	Mareave, however, is more like [[Ossium]] and [[the Barrens]] - territories that have never been part of the Empire before. The Barrens had long had a Dawnish presence, but the citizens of [[The_Barrens#Dawnguard\|Dawnguard]] were far from the majority. When Ossium was conquered there were ''no'' Imperial citizens and the territory had no history of ever being Varushkan. While Varushkans have settled there since then it took a year or more of careful work by politicians and priests to settle many of the issues.		Mareave, however, is more like [[Ossium]] and [[the Barrens]] - territories that have never been part of the Empire before. The Barrens had long had a Dawnish presence, but the citizens of [[The_Barrens#Dawnguard\|Dawnguard]] were far from the majority. When Ossium was conquered there were ''no'' Imperial citizens and the territory had no history of ever being Varushkan. While Varushkans have settled there since then it took a year or more of careful work by politicians and priests to settle many of the issues.

	Mareave represents a similar level of challenge. The territory has ''no'' Imperial citizens and few humans. The Grendel and the orcs of the Broken ~~SHore~~ are at best highly suspicious of Imperial invaders. The climate and geography themselves are unwelcoming; arid and dry. Yet at the same time the territory contains hidden wealth - the mines in the eastern mountains and hills burst with precious metal and the port-city of [[Mareave#Beoraidh\|Beoraidh]] apparently welcomes traders from across the known world. Whichever nation embraces Mareave will have its work cut out to ensure that the territory, in turn, embraces them back.		Mareave represents a similar level of challenge. The territory has ''no'' Imperial citizens and few humans. The Grendel and the orcs of the Broken Shore are at best highly suspicious of Imperial invaders. The climate and geography themselves are unwelcoming; arid and dry. Yet at the same time the territory contains hidden wealth - the mines in the eastern mountains and hills burst with precious metal and the port-city of [[Mareave#Beoraidh\|Beoraidh]] apparently welcomes traders from across the known world. Whichever nation embraces Mareave will have its work cut out to ensure that the territory, in turn, embraces them back.

	==Assignment and Allocation==		==Assignment and Allocation==
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	Regardless of the outcome, there will be no Senatorial election at the summit where the territory is assigned. It takes time to arrange a senatorial election. The senatorial election will be arranged for the summit ''after'' the assignment is concluded. This delay will not impede the ability to perform rituals effecting Mareave from the [[Regio#The_Imperial_Regio\|Imperial regio]]. At the point the territory became eligible to appoint a Senator, the metaphysical rules governing the regio at Anvil make it possible to affect the territory even though it has not yet been assigned.		Regardless of the outcome, there will be no Senatorial election at the summit where the territory is assigned. It takes time to arrange a senatorial election. The senatorial election will be arranged for the summit ''after'' the assignment is concluded. This delay will not impede the ability to perform rituals effecting Mareave from the [[Regio#The_Imperial_Regio\|Imperial regio]]. At the point the territory became eligible to appoint a Senator, the metaphysical rules governing the regio at Anvil make it possible to affect the territory even though it has not yet been assigned.

	Regardless of whether they assign the territory or not, the Senate may choose to [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Allocation\|allocate]] the [[Mareave#Fundindelve\|Fundindelve]] [[mithril]] mine. As with the [[Chilled_to_the_bone#The_Crawling_Depths\|Crawling Depths]], if they allocate the mine as a national position without assigning the territory, they would need to choose an Imperial nation to take temporary custody of it. This does not tie the hands of the Senate however. Once the territory were assigned, the mine would automatically become the legal responsibility of whichever nation takes control of Mareave. If the mithril mine is allocated during the Spring Equinox, it will be ~~avaiable~~ for appointment at the Summer Solstice for a single season before falling into the usual pattern of Autumn appointment alongside the other mithril resources.		Regardless of whether they assign the territory or not, the Senate may choose to [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Allocation\|allocate]] the [[Mareave#Fundindelve\|Fundindelve]] [[mithril]] mine. As with the [[Chilled_to_the_bone#The_Crawling_Depths\|Crawling Depths]], if they allocate the mine as a national position without assigning the territory, they would need to choose an Imperial nation to take temporary custody of it. This does not tie the hands of the Senate however. Once the territory were assigned, the mine would automatically become the legal responsibility of whichever nation takes control of Mareave. If the mithril mine is allocated during the Spring Equinox, it will be available for appointment at the Summer Solstice for a single season before falling into the usual pattern of Autumn appointment alongside the other mithril resources.

	It is worth remembering that neither assignment nor allocation are [[Senate_motion#Constitutional_Vote\|constitutional motions]]. They do not require ratification - although [[the Throne]] could use their [[the Throne#Power of Veto\|veto as normal]] - and it would be a matter for the General Assembly if the Synod [[veto]] was sought.		It is worth remembering that neither assignment nor allocation are [[Senate_motion#Constitutional_Vote\|constitutional motions]]. They do not require ratification - although [[the Throne]] could use their [[the Throne#Power of Veto\|veto as normal]] - and it would be a matter for the General Assembly if the Synod [[veto]] was sought.
	<div style="float:right; width: 600px; clear: right;"><box></big>'''Expectation Management'''<p>When it comes to assigning Mareave - or any new territory - there are no wrong answers, and no best answer. ''Any'' nation who is assigned this territory is going to face challenges. The nature of those challenges, and the [[opportunity\|opportunities]] that will accompany them, will be influenced by who the territory is assigned to. Integrating a new territory into the Empire will usually take a great deal of time and involve significant challenges. Every territory is different and the challenges will be different each time. The outcome is never guaranteed but we aim to make those challenges as much fun as possible for people who want to engage with them and to be potentially achievable regardless of which nation takes on the ~~challemge~~.</p>		<div style="float:right; width: 600px; clear: right;"><box></big>'''Expectation Management'''<p>When it comes to assigning Mareave - or any new territory - there are no wrong answers, and no best answer. ''Any'' nation who is assigned this territory is going to face challenges. The nature of those challenges, and the [[opportunity\|opportunities]] that will accompany them, will be influenced by who the territory is assigned to. Integrating a new territory into the Empire will usually take a great deal of time and involve significant challenges. Every territory is different and the challenges will be different each time. The outcome is never guaranteed but we aim to make those challenges as much fun as possible for people who want to engage with them and to be potentially achievable regardless of which nation takes on the challenge.</p>

	<p>Dealing with the orcs who live in Mareave is one of the challenges that must be addressed here. Even if a peaceful ~~accomodation~~ is made with them, that doesn't mean they will want to become ''part'' of any Imperial nation. At present, the bulk of the people of Mareave have no interest in joining ''any'' Imperial nation and no desire to move anywhere else.</p></box></div>		<p>Dealing with the orcs who live in Mareave is one of the challenges that must be addressed here. Even if a peaceful accommodation is made with them, that doesn't mean they will want to become ''part'' of any Imperial nation. At present, the bulk of the people of Mareave have no interest in joining ''any'' Imperial nation and no desire to move anywhere else.</p></box></div>

	==The Fine Art of Assignment==		==The Fine Art of Assignment==
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	The vast majority of the people in Mareave are orcs. They can be very roughly divided into three broad categories. Those in the north - in [[Mareave#Icarion\|Icarion]], [[Mareave#Nadir\|Nadir]], [[Mareave#Eoradal\|Eoradal]] and perhaps [[Mareave#Sinfoyard\|Sinfoyard]] are smaller, independent septs or communities of Broken Shore orcs. Subjects of the Grendel, many of them lived as slaves before being liberated by Imperial armies - especially the [[Winter Sun]] - during the invasion. It would be a mistake to assume these orcs welcome the Empire's soldiers. For the most part though they aren't especially organised - they represent loose communities of hunters, subsistence farmers, miners, and prospectors.		The vast majority of the people in Mareave are orcs. They can be very roughly divided into three broad categories. Those in the north - in [[Mareave#Icarion\|Icarion]], [[Mareave#Nadir\|Nadir]], [[Mareave#Eoradal\|Eoradal]] and perhaps [[Mareave#Sinfoyard\|Sinfoyard]] are smaller, independent septs or communities of Broken Shore orcs. Subjects of the Grendel, many of them lived as slaves before being liberated by Imperial armies - especially the [[Winter Sun]] - during the invasion. It would be a mistake to assume these orcs welcome the Empire's soldiers. For the most part though they aren't especially organised - they represent loose communities of hunters, subsistence farmers, miners, and prospectors.

	The Grendel proper - the ~~sophisicated~~, wealthy orcs who rule Attar and the Broken Shore - still control [[Mareave#Beoraidh_2\|Beoraidh]] and its prosperous port-city, and once occupied wealthy estates in [[Mareave#Clisearn\|Clisearn]]. Those who haven't been killed fighting the Empire have retreated either to [[Mareave#Beoraidh\|the city]] of former-Salt-Lord Ehsan, or fled south to seek sanctuary among the Brine Turtles, or their neighbours in [[Bay_of_Catazar#Ayereed\|Ayereed]] or whatever Grendel lands lie to the south-east of the territory.		The Grendel proper - the sophisticated, wealthy orcs who rule Attar and the Broken Shore - still control [[Mareave#Beoraidh_2\|Beoraidh]] and its prosperous port-city, and once occupied wealthy estates in [[Mareave#Clisearn\|Clisearn]]. Those who haven't been killed fighting the Empire have retreated either to [[Mareave#Beoraidh\|the city]] of former-Salt-Lord Ehsan, or fled south to seek sanctuary among the Brine Turtles, or their neighbours in [[Bay_of_Catazar#Ayereed\|Ayereed]] or whatever Grendel lands lie to the south-east of the territory.

	Finally there are the Brine Turtles - the organised, powerful sept of orcs who make up the majority of one of the orc armies that shares their name. They control the region of [[Mareave#Fleisardh\|Fleisardh]] and while they aren't ''especially'' fond of Ehsan or his fellows they also have no love at all for the Empire. It's also notable that if the Empire intends to continue to conquer the Broken Shore, they will need to either enlist the aid of the Brine Turtles or conquer their homeland on the southern borders of the territory.		Finally there are the Brine Turtles - the organised, powerful sept of orcs who make up the majority of one of the orc armies that shares their name. They control the region of [[Mareave#Fleisardh\|Fleisardh]] and while they aren't ''especially'' fond of Ehsan or his fellows they also have no love at all for the Empire. It's also notable that if the Empire intends to continue to conquer the Broken Shore, they will need to either enlist the aid of the Brine Turtles or conquer their homeland on the southern borders of the territory.

	None of these orcs are follows of [[the Way]]; many of them ~~recongise~~ the so-called [[Grendel_religion#Virtues\|Grendel virtues]] to one degree or another. Many more honour their ancestors, especially [[Grendel_religion#Rucraic_-_The_Storm_Lord\|Ruicraic the Storm Lord]]. The Empire would underestimate the influence this legendary reaver and pirate has over the orcs of Mareave at its peril.		None of these orcs are follows of [[the Way]]; many of them recognise the so-called [[Grendel_religion#Virtues\|Grendel virtues]] to one degree or another. Many more honour their ancestors, especially [[Grendel_religion#Rucraic_-_The_Storm_Lord\|Ruicraic the Storm Lord]]. The Empire would underestimate the influence this legendary reaver and pirate has over the orcs of Mareave at its peril.

	Some of these orcs have already joined the [[Sannite]] sept of the Imperial Orcs. It's possible that more will do so in the coming months, among the smaller northern septs. A few will seek a fresh start in Skarsind, and some will want to stay in the land they know well. The prospect of trekking all the way to an alpine wilderness in the north is hardly appealing to people familiar with the heat of Mareave. However most of the orcs here have no interest in becoming Imperial Orcs, any more than they have an interest in becoming Urizen, Dawnish, or Winterfolk.		Some of these orcs have already joined the [[Sannite]] sept of the Imperial Orcs. It's possible that more will do so in the coming months, among the smaller northern septs. A few will seek a fresh start in Skarsind, and some will want to stay in the land they know well. The prospect of trekking all the way to an alpine wilderness in the north is hardly appealing to people familiar with the heat of Mareave. However most of the orcs here have no interest in becoming Imperial Orcs, any more than they have an interest in becoming Urizen, Dawnish, or Winterfolk.
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	===Dry land and Economics===		===Dry land and Economics===
	* '''Much of Mareave is arid, with little access to fresh water which has limited agriculture here'''		* '''Much of Mareave is arid, with little access to fresh water which has limited agriculture here'''
	Mareave experiences a similar climate to parts of the Brass Coast. The southern regions - especially Fleisardh and Clisearn - are similar to [[Kahraman]] or [[Segura]]. Dry, parched grasslands. The northern regions - Icarion, Nadir, Eoradal, and Sinfoyard - are much drier and more desolate than any Freeborn land. The scattered settlements are usually ~~centered~~ around a well that provides life-giving water, and is used to irrigate farms of hardy root vegetables. Individual communities guard their water jealously, but the wealthier groups may trade small amounts to each other in the same way an Imperial town might trade its surplus goods.		Mareave experiences a similar climate to parts of the Brass Coast. The southern regions - especially Fleisardh and Clisearn - are similar to [[Kahraman]] or [[Segura]]. Dry, parched grasslands. The northern regions - Icarion, Nadir, Eoradal, and Sinfoyard - are much drier and more desolate than any Freeborn land. The scattered settlements are usually centred around a well that provides life-giving water, and is used to irrigate farms of hardy root vegetables. Individual communities guard their water jealously, but the wealthier groups may trade small amounts to each other in the same way an Imperial town might trade its surplus goods.

	Clisearn, Fleisardh, and Beoraidh by contrast are relatively fertile, with a similar pattern of farms to those found in Segura or Feroz. Unfortunately two of these three regions are still in barbarian hands. Supporting Imperial citizens here will be a challenge without access to the food raised in these regions - although as the Urizen have proved with the assistance of the Marchers, that doesn't mean it would be impossible.		Clisearn, Fleisardh, and Beoraidh by contrast are relatively fertile, with a similar pattern of farms to those found in Segura or Feroz. Unfortunately two of these three regions are still in barbarian hands. Supporting Imperial citizens here will be a challenge without access to the food raised in these regions - although as the Urizen have proved with the assistance of the Marchers, that doesn't mean it would be impossible.