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Matt: Text replacement - "[[Imperial Bourse" to "[[Bourse"

2026-01-15T13:13:30Z

Text replacement - "[[Imperial Bourse" to "[[Bourse"

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	===We are building a nation===		===We are building a nation===
	When Skarsind was liberated from the Thule, the [[Brilliant Shore]] was [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Allocation\|allocated]] as a national resource. This status has not been changed by the decision to relinquish and re-allocate Skarsind. The Brilliant Shore is now an Imperial Orc national seat on the [[~~Imperial~~ Bourse]]. However, the steinr Joakim was assigned the resource in Summer 379YE. The civil service intends to raise an administrative motion with the Senate to determine whether they wish the Brilliant Shore to default to the Imperial Orcs immediately, or whether the Wintermark incumbent should continue to control the seat until it would next be assigned in Summer 380YE (or if they die or step down).		When Skarsind was liberated from the Thule, the [[Brilliant Shore]] was [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Allocation\|allocated]] as a national resource. This status has not been changed by the decision to relinquish and re-allocate Skarsind. The Brilliant Shore is now an Imperial Orc national seat on the [[Bourse]]. However, the steinr Joakim was assigned the resource in Summer 379YE. The civil service intends to raise an administrative motion with the Senate to determine whether they wish the Brilliant Shore to default to the Imperial Orcs immediately, or whether the Wintermark incumbent should continue to control the seat until it would next be assigned in Summer 380YE (or if they die or step down).

	Once the seat is available for appointment again, whenever that takes place, the decision about who controls the Brilliant Shore will be made by the Imperial Orc captains of [[military unit\|military units]].		Once the seat is available for appointment again, whenever that takes place, the decision about who controls the Brilliant Shore will be made by the Imperial Orc captains of [[military unit\|military units]].

	The offices of the [[Steel Fist]] have been relocated from [[Necropolis#Crown's Quay\|Crown's Quay]] to Torfast in [[Skarsind#Southpine\|Southpine]] but the bourse seat is otherwise unaffected. It will continue to be assigned by the captains of military units who support the Imperial armies, as before. The [[Sarcophan Delves]] merchants responsible for delivering the bounty of [[ilium]] the seat receives have not taken the news that they will now be required to trek across the entire Empire to the "''bevroren strontgat van niets''" particularly well but have no alternative unless they wish to break or renegotiate their deal with the Empire		The offices of the [[Steel Fist]] have been relocated from [[Necropolis#Crown's Quay\|Crown's Quay]] to Torfast in [[Skarsind#Southpine\|Southpine]] but the bourse seat is otherwise unaffected. It will continue to be assigned by the captains of military units who support the Imperial armies, as before. The [[Sarcophan Delves]] merchants responsible for delivering the bounty of [[ilium]] the seat receives have not taken the news that they will now be required to trek across the entire Empire to the "''bevroren strontgat van niets''" particularly well but have no alternative unless they wish to break or renegotiate their deal with the Empire

Twiggy at 00:18, 13 January 2026

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	From this point forward, all Imperial Orcs generals will be appointed by unanimous decision of the senators of the nation.		From this point forward, all Imperial Orcs generals will be appointed by unanimous decision of the senators of the nation.

	For the last five decades, the appointment of the Imperial Orc generals was determined by competition between warbands. Tradition is a powerful force, and it may be that the Imperial Orc nation wishes to continue the practice of fighting in the pit to identify who the best candidates for the title of general may be. However, it is important to ~~realize~~ that there is no ''legal'' requirement for the senator to accept this mechanism if they do not wish to do so. It is also possible for the senator to appoint a general who is not a member of the appropriate army (that is, a Summer Storm soldier could be general of the Winter Sun), though such an action might cause morale issues for the army.		For the last five decades, the appointment of the Imperial Orc generals was determined by competition between warbands. Tradition is a powerful force, and it may be that the Imperial Orc nation wishes to continue the practice of fighting in the pit to identify who the best candidates for the title of general may be. However, it is important to realise that there is no ''legal'' requirement for the senator to accept this mechanism if they do not wish to do so. It is also possible for the senator to appoint a general who is not a member of the appropriate army (that is, a Summer Storm soldier could be general of the Winter Sun), though such an action might cause morale issues for the army.

	The general of the Summer Storm will serve until their term ends (in Summer), they step down, die, or are [[revocation\|revoked]].The Winter Sun general is the same but is appointed annually at the Winter Solstice.		The general of the Summer Storm will serve until their term ends (in Summer), they step down, die, or are [[revocation\|revoked]].The Winter Sun general is the same but is appointed annually at the Winter Solstice.

Twiggy at 15:15, 29 September 2025

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	<box>'''OOC explanation'''<br>		<box>'''OOC explanation'''<br>
	As with several things about the Imperial Orcs, the previous situation was an ~~artifact~~ of the unique position of possessing no territory of their own. Now that the orcs have a senator, this situation has obviously changed. We discussed extensively the idea that the senator would be appointed by the generals, but in the end we discarded the idea as unsatisfying. It would perpetuate a special situation for the Imperial Orcs, meaning they would continue to be an unconstitutional mess. A single senator appointing two generals may be peculiar, but it is entirely supported by other parts of the game and setting.</box>		As with several things about the Imperial Orcs, the previous situation was an artefact of the unique position of possessing no territory of their own. Now that the orcs have a senator, this situation has obviously changed. We discussed extensively the idea that the senator would be appointed by the generals, but in the end we discarded the idea as unsatisfying. It would perpetuate a special situation for the Imperial Orcs, meaning they would continue to be an unconstitutional mess. A single senator appointing two generals may be peculiar, but it is entirely supported by other parts of the game and setting.</box>

	===We are citizens===		===We are citizens===

Twiggy at 17:59, 13 July 2025

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	The General Assembly has until the start of the first senate session on the Friday night of the Winter Solstice to secure the majority required to wield the veto. The [[conscience of the Senate]] would then be responsible for announcing that veto at the session. The opportunity to veto the relinquishment of Skarsind has passed, however, and ratification is not subject to the veto. They would only be able to veto the [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Assignment\|assignment]] of the territory to the Imperial Orcs. If they did so, the Senate would be able to raise a motion of assignment again during the Winter Solstice, but there would be no requirement for them to name the Imperial Orcs as the recipient of the territory. Indeed, they could assign it to any other Imperial nation.		The General Assembly has until the start of the first senate session on the Friday night of the Winter Solstice to secure the majority required to wield the veto. The [[conscience of the Senate]] would then be responsible for announcing that veto at the session. The opportunity to veto the relinquishment of Skarsind has passed, however, and ratification is not subject to the veto. They would only be able to veto the [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Assignment\|assignment]] of the territory to the Imperial Orcs. If they did so, the Senate would be able to raise a motion of assignment again during the Winter Solstice, but there would be no requirement for them to name the Imperial Orcs as the recipient of the territory. Indeed, they could assign it to any other Imperial nation.

	Because the motion took place during the Autumn ~~Equniox~~, this would count as the use of the veto from Autumn, not the use of the Winter Solstice veto. This is significant because the Synod can only veto one motion that is not constitutional each season - and while the relinquishment was constitutional, the assignment is not. However, if the Senate raised the assignment again this season following a successful use of the veto, the Synod would again be able to seek the veto using the ability to do so for ''this'' season.		Because the motion took place during the Autumn Equinox, this would count as the use of the veto from Autumn, not the use of the Winter Solstice veto. This is significant because the Synod can only veto one motion that is not constitutional each season - and while the relinquishment was constitutional, the assignment is not. However, if the Senate raised the assignment again this season following a successful use of the veto, the Synod would again be able to seek the veto using the ability to do so for ''this'' season.

	No member of the Synod informed the civil service of their intention to seek the veto during the Autumn Equinox so their assumption is that the motion should proceed without complication. As such, the last three months have seen large numbers of Imperial Orcs moving to Skarsind to begin their new lives. If the motion ''is'' vetoed, then further efforts to help the orcs claim the territory will cease until the Senate and Synod are able to reach an accord once more.		No member of the Synod informed the civil service of their intention to seek the veto during the Autumn Equinox so their assumption is that the motion should proceed without complication. As such, the last three months have seen large numbers of Imperial Orcs moving to Skarsind to begin their new lives. If the motion ''is'' vetoed, then further efforts to help the orcs claim the territory will cease until the Senate and Synod are able to reach an accord once more.

Coolbeans: /* Life is Precious */

2024-06-21T09:08:15Z

Life is Precious

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	<box>'''OOC Explanation'''<br>We have moved the [[Resource#Personal_Resource\|personal resource]] of every Imperial Orc character to Skarsind. There is no charge for this to happen, and the Imperial Orcs have not suffered any loss of upgrade. The cost to do so is below the abstraction layer, assumed to have been covered by funds collected over the last fifty years to allow the orcs to claim their homeland. Individual players are welcome to roleplay that they have relocated their resource (even though this would normally not be possible), or had the assistance of the civil service or from claiming a new resource in Skarsind with the same characteristics of their old resource.		<box>'''OOC Explanation'''<br>We have moved the [[Resource#Personal_Resource\|personal resource]] of every Imperial Orc character to Skarsind. There is no charge for this to happen, and the Imperial Orcs have not suffered any loss of upgrade. The cost to do so is below the abstraction layer, assumed to have been covered by funds collected over the last fifty years to allow the orcs to claim their homeland. Individual players are welcome to roleplay that they have relocated their resource (even though this would normally not be possible), or had the assistance of the civil service or from claiming a new resource in Skarsind with the same characteristics of their old resource.

	If any Imperial Orc player does not want to move their resource to Skarsind, they should e-mail ~~empire.~~plot@profounddecisions.co.uk to let us know. They will need to name a specific Imperial territory where they want their resource to be from this point onwards. They will suffer		If any Imperial Orc player does not want to move their resource to Skarsind, they should e-mail plot@profounddecisions.co.uk to let us know. They will need to name a specific Imperial territory where they want their resource to be from this point onwards. They will suffer
	[[Resource#Resources_in_other_Nations\|the usual penalties]] for having a personal resource in a another nation's territory, and will not be eligible to vote in any senatorial elections.		[[Resource#Resources_in_other_Nations\|the usual penalties]] for having a personal resource in a another nation's territory, and will not be eligible to vote in any senatorial elections.

Hastur: /* The Veto */

2022-02-11T12:06:13Z

The Veto

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	There is one small element that is unresolved. The assignment of Skarsind took place during the final senate session of the Autumn Equinox, and so the Imperial Synod have a window of opportunity to employ their [[veto]] should they wish to do so. But there are some provisos.		There is one small element that is unresolved. The assignment of Skarsind took place during the final senate session of the Autumn Equinox, and so the Imperial Synod have a window of opportunity to employ their [[veto]] should they wish to do so. But there are some provisos.

	The General Assembly has until the start of the first senate session on the Friday night of the Winter Solstice to secure the majority required to wield the veto. The [[conscience of the Senate]] would then be responsible for announcing that veto at the session. The opportunity to veto the relinquishment of Skarsind has passed, however, and ratification is not subject to the veto. They would only be able to veto the [[~~Powers of the Senate~~#Assignment\|assignment]] of the territory to the Imperial Orcs. If they did so, the Senate would be able to raise a motion of assignment again during the Winter Solstice, but there would be no requirement for them to name the Imperial Orcs as the recipient of the territory. Indeed, they could assign it to any other Imperial nation.		The General Assembly has until the start of the first senate session on the Friday night of the Winter Solstice to secure the majority required to wield the veto. The [[conscience of the Senate]] would then be responsible for announcing that veto at the session. The opportunity to veto the relinquishment of Skarsind has passed, however, and ratification is not subject to the veto. They would only be able to veto the [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Assignment\|assignment]] of the territory to the Imperial Orcs. If they did so, the Senate would be able to raise a motion of assignment again during the Winter Solstice, but there would be no requirement for them to name the Imperial Orcs as the recipient of the territory. Indeed, they could assign it to any other Imperial nation.

	Because the motion took place during the Autumn Equniox, this would count as the use of the veto from Autumn, not the use of the Winter Solstice veto. This is significant because the Synod can only veto one motion that is not constitutional each season - and while the relinquishment was constitutional, the assignment is not. However, if the Senate raised the assignment again this season following a successful use of the veto, the Synod would again be able to seek the veto using the ability to do so for ''this'' season.		Because the motion took place during the Autumn Equniox, this would count as the use of the veto from Autumn, not the use of the Winter Solstice veto. This is significant because the Synod can only veto one motion that is not constitutional each season - and while the relinquishment was constitutional, the assignment is not. However, if the Senate raised the assignment again this season following a successful use of the veto, the Synod would again be able to seek the veto using the ability to do so for ''this'' season.

RichardRaynor at 19:26, 3 February 2022

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	[[Category:Winds of Fortune]][[Category:379YE]][[Category:Recent History~~]][[Category: Winter Solstice 379YE~~]]		[[Category:Winds of Fortune]][[Category:379YE Winter]][[Category:Recent History]]
	<ic>Loyalty is a fire that spreads quickly - provided the wood is dry.</ic>		<ic>Loyalty is a fire that spreads quickly - provided the wood is dry.</ic>

Matt at 21:43, 30 July 2020

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	===We are citizens===		===We are citizens===
	During Winter 376YE, the Imperial senate created the [[imperial title]] of [[Advisor on ~~orc affairs~~]]. As a national Senate title, the responsibility for naming the advisor falls to unanimous decision of the Imperial Orcs senators.		During Winter 376YE, the Imperial senate created the [[imperial title]] of [[Advisor on Orc Affairs]]. As a national Senate title, the responsibility for naming the advisor falls to unanimous decision of the Imperial Orcs senators.

	While the title is obviously a little less relevant with an actual senator, it represents significant additional presence in the Senate for the Imperial Orcs. The ability to serve as a [[Advisor_on_orc_affairs#Member_of_the_Senate\|member of the senate]] and the [[Advisor_on_orc_affairs#Right_of_Address\|right of address]] are in no way altered by the existence of an Imperial Orc senator. They still have the responsibility to advise the senate on matters relating to orcs - both Imperial and barbarian (although at present the Senate have not given the advisor the authority to negotiate with orc foreigners and barbarians on their behalf).		While the title is obviously a little less relevant with an actual senator, it represents significant additional presence in the Senate for the Imperial Orcs. The ability to serve as a [[Advisor_on_orc_affairs#Member_of_the_Senate\|member of the senate]] and the [[Advisor_on_orc_affairs#Right_of_Address\|right of address]] are in no way altered by the existence of an Imperial Orc senator. They still have the responsibility to advise the senate on matters relating to orcs - both Imperial and barbarian (although at present the Senate have not given the advisor the authority to negotiate with orc foreigners and barbarians on their behalf).

Rafferty at 10:29, 1 November 2018

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			[[Category:Winds of Fortune]][[Category:379YE]][[Category:Recent History]][[Category: Winter Solstice 379YE]]
	<ic>Loyalty is a fire that spreads quickly - provided the wood is dry.</ic>		<ic>Loyalty is a fire that spreads quickly - provided the wood is dry.</ic>

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	Once the seat is available for appointment again, whenever that takes place, the decision about who controls the Brilliant Shore will be made by the Imperial Orc captains of [[military unit\|military units]].		Once the seat is available for appointment again, whenever that takes place, the decision about who controls the Brilliant Shore will be made by the Imperial Orc captains of [[military unit\|military units]].

	The offices of the [[Steel Fist]] have been relocated from [[Necropolis#Crown's Quay\|Crown's Quay]] to Torfast in [[Skarsind#Southpine\|Southpine]] but the bourse seat is otherwise unaffected. It will continue to be assigned by the captains of military units who support the Imperial armies, as before. The [[Sarcophan Delves]] merchants responsible for delivering the bounty of [[ilium]] the seat receives have not taken the news that they will now be required to trek across the entire Empire to the "''bevroren strontgat van niets''" particularly well but have no alternative unless they wish to break or renegotiate their deal with the Empire.		The offices of the [[Steel Fist]] have been relocated from [[Necropolis#Crown's Quay\|Crown's Quay]] to Torfast in [[Skarsind#Southpine\|Southpine]] but the bourse seat is otherwise unaffected. It will continue to be assigned by the captains of military units who support the Imperial armies, as before. The [[Sarcophan Delves]] merchants responsible for delivering the bounty of [[ilium]] the seat receives have not taken the news that they will now be required to trek across the entire Empire to the "''bevroren strontgat van niets''" particularly well but have no alternative unless they wish to break or renegotiate their deal with the Empire

	~~[[Category:History]] [[Category:379YE]] [[Category:Recent History]]~~

Matt: /* Loyal to the core */

2018-03-06T10:56:48Z

Loyal to the core

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	From this point forward, all Imperial Orcs generals will be appointed by unanimous decision of the senators of the nation.		From this point forward, all Imperial Orcs generals will be appointed by unanimous decision of the senators of the nation.

	For the last five decades, the appointment of the Imperial Orc generals was determined by competition between warbands. Tradition is a powerful force, and it may be that the Imperial Orc nation wishes to continue the practice of fighting in the pit to identify who the best candidates for the title of general may be. However, it is important to realize that there is no ''legal'' requirement for the senator to accept this mechanism if they do not wish to do so. It is also possible for the senator to appoint a general who is not a member of the appropriate ~~legion~~ (that is, a Summer Storm soldier could be general of the Winter Sun), though such an action might cause morale issues for the army.		For the last five decades, the appointment of the Imperial Orc generals was determined by competition between warbands. Tradition is a powerful force, and it may be that the Imperial Orc nation wishes to continue the practice of fighting in the pit to identify who the best candidates for the title of general may be. However, it is important to realize that there is no ''legal'' requirement for the senator to accept this mechanism if they do not wish to do so. It is also possible for the senator to appoint a general who is not a member of the appropriate army (that is, a Summer Storm soldier could be general of the Winter Sun), though such an action might cause morale issues for the army.

	The general of the Summer Storm will serve until their term ends (in Summer), they step down, die, or are [[revocation\|revoked]].The Winter Sun general is the same but is appointed annually at the Winter Solstice.		The general of the Summer Storm will serve until their term ends (in Summer), they step down, die, or are [[revocation\|revoked]].The Winter Sun general is the same but is appointed annually at the Winter Solstice.