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	{{Mandate\|mandate=Test what you learn; only fools accept hearsay as truth. We send the Arbiter of the Four Winds with {x} doses of liao to encourage every priest to challenge Synod judgement XX, calling for...\|assembly=Urizen National Assembly}}		{{Mandate\|mandate=Test what you learn; only fools accept hearsay as truth. We send the Arbiter of the Four Winds with {x} doses of liao to encourage every priest to challenge Synod judgement XX, calling for...\|assembly=Urizen National Assembly}}

	If the mandate were enacted then sword scholars would support the Arbiter in challenging the other mandate described in the judgement. The Arbiter would need to provide the same amount of liao as the original mandate required and obviously the Arbiter's judgement would need to pass the Synod with a greater majority and without opposition. If that happened then the original judgement called out by the Arbiter would be impossible to enact, ~~it's~~ progress impeded everywhere by the challenging interrogation of the sword scholars.		If the mandate were enacted then sword scholars would support the Arbiter in challenging the other mandate described in the judgement. The Arbiter would need to provide the same amount of liao as the original mandate required and obviously the Arbiter's judgement would need to pass the Synod with a greater majority and without opposition. If that happened then the original judgement called out by the Arbiter would be impossible to enact, its progress impeded everywhere by the challenging interrogation of the sword scholars.

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	Others have argued that Paragon of Blades exemplified [[Courage]]. She took the fight to the priests who came to spread the Way, determined to oppose them in every way, with words as well as swords. She refused to deviate from the path, hewing to the course she had chosen no matter the adversity she faced. She was a peerless warrior, who cleaved to what she believed to be true, even while others urged her to doubt.		Others have argued that Paragon of Blades exemplified [[Courage]]. She took the fight to the priests who came to spread the Way, determined to oppose them in every way, with words as well as swords. She refused to deviate from the path, hewing to the course she had chosen no matter the adversity she faced. She was a peerless warrior, who cleaved to what she believed to be true, even while others urged her to doubt.

	Others scholars have claimed that it was [[Pride]] that drove Sulemaine to oppose the Way, saying it was the love of Urizen and ~~it's~~ traditions that make her an inspiring figure. That a woman born on the Brass Coast might prize Urizen so highly could only happen because of the Pride she felt in her adoptive homeland. She proclaimed her commitment to her arete in every debate and duel she took part in. She executed those she defeated because she despised the half-hearted, those who pretend to a great wisdom they do not possess.		Others scholars have claimed that it was [[Pride]] that drove Sulemaine to oppose the Way, saying it was the love of Urizen and its traditions that make her an inspiring figure. That a woman born on the Brass Coast might prize Urizen so highly could only happen because of the Pride she felt in her adoptive homeland. She proclaimed her commitment to her arete in every debate and duel she took part in. She executed those she defeated because she despised the half-hearted, those who pretend to a great wisdom they do not possess.

	The tomb could also be consecrated to [[Ambition]]. That Sulemaine ultimately failed to prevent the Highborn bringing the Way to Urizen, is a testament to how extraordinary the challenge facing her was. She tried to fell the forest one tree at a time, seeking to stop the missionaries by opposing them personally. She understood it was better to try and fail than not to try at all and it is eminently clear from her writings that she never wavered in the belief that her goal was beyond her grasp.		The tomb could also be consecrated to [[Ambition]]. That Sulemaine ultimately failed to prevent the Highborn bringing the Way to Urizen, is a testament to how extraordinary the challenge facing her was. She tried to fell the forest one tree at a time, seeking to stop the missionaries by opposing them personally. She understood it was better to try and fail than not to try at all and it is eminently clear from her writings that she never wavered in the belief that her goal was beyond her grasp.
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	The nation would see a flowering of independent thinking, a rejection of the benefits of the union with the Empire with sword scholars pointing to Sulemaine's uncompromising hostility for any outside influence. Those who meditated at the tomb would feel driven to ensure that Urizen sought a new future, one free of the constraints and limitations imposed by other nations. People would be motivated to take up the sword, just as Sulemaine did, and seek to combat any force that seeks to hold the nation back. Peaceful discussion will be discarded in favour of armed opposition as each individual seeks to confront the challenges facing the nation and strive to keep it pure.		The nation would see a flowering of independent thinking, a rejection of the benefits of the union with the Empire with sword scholars pointing to Sulemaine's uncompromising hostility for any outside influence. Those who meditated at the tomb would feel driven to ensure that Urizen sought a new future, one free of the constraints and limitations imposed by other nations. People would be motivated to take up the sword, just as Sulemaine did, and seek to combat any force that seeks to hold the nation back. Peaceful discussion will be discarded in favour of armed opposition as each individual seeks to confront the challenges facing the nation and strive to keep it pure.

	It would become possible for Urizen to raise a second [[Army\|army]], one of sword scholars, inspired by Sulemaine's legacy. It would require 200 wains of mithril and 50 thrones and take a year to complete as normal, but there would be enough sword scholars to sustain an entire armed force to rival the [[Citadel Guard]]. It is not clear what [[Army qualities\|quality]] the new army might possess, but one feature it would definitely have is an abiding dislike for the Empire and ~~it's~~ influence over Urizen. This might not be a problem provided the [[general]] was a sword scholar chosen by the [[Senator\|senators]] of Urizen, but it would be impossible for a general appointed by the Imperial Senate to issue any orders to the army. The independent minded sword scholars would follow Sulemaine's example and refuse to follow the directions of anyone who had been chosen by people from outside Urizen.		It would become possible for Urizen to raise a second [[Army\|army]], one of sword scholars, inspired by Sulemaine's legacy. It would require 200 wains of mithril and 50 thrones and take a year to complete as normal, but there would be enough sword scholars to sustain an entire armed force to rival the [[Citadel Guard]]. It is not clear what [[Army qualities\|quality]] the new army might possess, but one feature it would definitely have is an abiding dislike for the Empire and its influence over Urizen. This might not be a problem provided the [[general]] was a sword scholar chosen by the [[Senator\|senators]] of Urizen, but it would be impossible for a general appointed by the Imperial Senate to issue any orders to the army. The independent minded sword scholars would follow Sulemaine's example and refuse to follow the directions of anyone who had been chosen by people from outside Urizen.

	Such benefits would not come without a cost however. Urizen is able to maintain the extraordinary benefits of the [[Doyen of the Spires]] due to the presence of so many magicians in the nation. It is their commitment to the study of magic in all its forms that enables the college to function to full effect. The only way Urizen could form a second army, is if thousands of the nation's most promising students chose to take up the sword and dedicate themselves to battle rather than the contemplative study of magic. If that happened, then this would mean less magicians supporting the Doyen in their research. Going forward, each territory in Urizen would contribute 3 ranks to the Doyen of the Spires, rather than 5.		Such benefits would not come without a cost however. Urizen is able to maintain the extraordinary benefits of the [[Doyen of the Spires]] due to the presence of so many magicians in the nation. It is their commitment to the study of magic in all its forms that enables the college to function to full effect. The only way Urizen could form a second army, is if thousands of the nation's most promising students chose to take up the sword and dedicate themselves to battle rather than the contemplative study of magic. If that happened, then this would mean less magicians supporting the Doyen in their research. Going forward, each territory in Urizen would contribute 3 ranks to the Doyen of the Spires, rather than 5.

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	The nation would see a flowering of independent thinking, a rejection of the benefits of the union with the Empire with sword scholars pointing to Sulemaine's uncompromising hostility for any outside influence. Those who meditated at the tomb would feel driven to ensure that Urizen sought a new future, one free of the constraints and limitations imposed by other nations. People would be motivated to take up the sword, just as Sulemaine did, and seek to combat any force that seeks to hold the nation back. Peaceful discussion will be discarded in favour of armed opposition as each individual seeks to confront the challenges facing the nation and strive to keep it pure.		The nation would see a flowering of independent thinking, a rejection of the benefits of the union with the Empire with sword scholars pointing to Sulemaine's uncompromising hostility for any outside influence. Those who meditated at the tomb would feel driven to ensure that Urizen sought a new future, one free of the constraints and limitations imposed by other nations. People would be motivated to take up the sword, just as Sulemaine did, and seek to combat any force that seeks to hold the nation back. Peaceful discussion will be discarded in favour of armed opposition as each individual seeks to confront the challenges facing the nation and strive to keep it pure.

	It would become possible for Urizen to raise a second [[~~Imperial army~~\|army]], one of sword scholars, inspired by Sulemaine's legacy. It would require 200 wains of mithril and 50 thrones and take a year to complete as normal, but there would be enough sword scholars to sustain an entire armed force to rival the [[Citadel Guard]]. It is not clear what [[Army qualities\|quality]] the new army might possess, but one feature it would definitely have is an abiding dislike for the Empire and it's influence over Urizen. This might not be a problem provided the [[general]] was a sword scholar chosen by the [[Senator\|senators]] of Urizen, but it would be impossible for a general appointed by the Imperial Senate to issue any orders to the army. The independent minded sword scholars would follow Sulemaine's example and refuse to follow the directions of anyone who had been chosen by people from outside Urizen.		It would become possible for Urizen to raise a second [[Army\|army]], one of sword scholars, inspired by Sulemaine's legacy. It would require 200 wains of mithril and 50 thrones and take a year to complete as normal, but there would be enough sword scholars to sustain an entire armed force to rival the [[Citadel Guard]]. It is not clear what [[Army qualities\|quality]] the new army might possess, but one feature it would definitely have is an abiding dislike for the Empire and it's influence over Urizen. This might not be a problem provided the [[general]] was a sword scholar chosen by the [[Senator\|senators]] of Urizen, but it would be impossible for a general appointed by the Imperial Senate to issue any orders to the army. The independent minded sword scholars would follow Sulemaine's example and refuse to follow the directions of anyone who had been chosen by people from outside Urizen.

	Such benefits would not come without a cost however. Urizen is able to maintain the extraordinary benefits of the [[Doyen of the Spires]] due to the presence of so many magicians in the nation. It is their commitment to the study of magic in all its forms that enables the college to function to full effect. The only way Urizen could form a second army, is if thousands of the nation's most promising students chose to take up the sword and dedicate themselves to battle rather than the contemplative study of magic. If that happened, then this would mean less magicians supporting the Doyen in their research. Going forward, each territory in Urizen would contribute 3 ranks to the Doyen of the Spires, rather than 5.		Such benefits would not come without a cost however. Urizen is able to maintain the extraordinary benefits of the [[Doyen of the Spires]] due to the presence of so many magicians in the nation. It is their commitment to the study of magic in all its forms that enables the college to function to full effect. The only way Urizen could form a second army, is if thousands of the nation's most promising students chose to take up the sword and dedicate themselves to battle rather than the contemplative study of magic. If that happened, then this would mean less magicians supporting the Doyen in their research. Going forward, each territory in Urizen would contribute 3 ranks to the Doyen of the Spires, rather than 5.

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	Recent developments have seen [[Return_of_the_sword_scholars\|Sulemaine's legacy reconciled with the nation]], but she remains deeply controversial. She was a crucial figure in Urizen's pre-Imperial history, achieving notoriety for her direct confrontation of [[Highguard\|Highborn]] missionaries who tried to spread the Way in Urizen. She denounced and executed any whose beliefs she considered insufficiently grounded in reason and logic and she became an inspiration to many. In the decades following her death, the sword scholars grudgingly adopted the virtues but they remained fiercely opposed the Way.		Recent developments have seen [[Return_of_the_sword_scholars\|Sulemaine's legacy reconciled with the nation]], but she remains deeply controversial. She was a crucial figure in Urizen's pre-Imperial history, achieving notoriety for her direct confrontation of [[Highguard\|Highborn]] missionaries who tried to spread the Way in Urizen. She denounced and executed any whose beliefs she considered insufficiently grounded in reason and logic and she became an inspiration to many. In the decades following her death, the sword scholars grudgingly adopted the virtues but they remained fiercely opposed the Way.

	The [[~~Imperial~~ Synod]] has repeatedly refused to [[recognition\|recognise]] Sulemaine as an [[Paragons and exemplars\|exemplar or paragon]], so there is no single cardinal virtue with which she is associated. Many of the [[Sword scholar\|sword scholars]], associate her with [[Wisdom]] and that is the virtue that Able has announced but a number of her current disciples cling to other beliefs. Arguments can be made for [[Ambition]], [[Courage]], [[Pride]], or [[Vigilance]] perhaps but there are followers of the first sword scholar who espouse [[Malign_spiritual_presences#Hatred\|other paths]].		The [[Synod]] has repeatedly refused to [[recognition\|recognise]] Sulemaine as an [[Paragons and exemplars\|exemplar or paragon]], so there is no single cardinal virtue with which she is associated. Many of the [[Sword scholar\|sword scholars]], associate her with [[Wisdom]] and that is the virtue that Able has announced but a number of her current disciples cling to other beliefs. Arguments can be made for [[Ambition]], [[Courage]], [[Pride]], or [[Vigilance]] perhaps but there are followers of the first sword scholar who espouse [[Malign_spiritual_presences#Hatred\|other paths]].

	It is not clear if it is even legal to create an [[Inspirational location\|inspirational tomb]] for Sulemaine. Traditionally such an honour has always been reserved for exemplars and paragons. In practical terms, [[Religious_crime#Blasphemy\|Imperial laws on blasphemy]] forbid "''promoting false virtues and the teachings of false exemplars or false paragons''" but the Imperial Synod have previously said that [[383YE_Summer_Solstice_Synod_judgements#Judgement_73\|she cannot be considered a false paragon]]. Provided they continue to hold that line then the Imperial magistrates won't have a case to prosecute.		It is not clear if it is even legal to create an [[Inspirational location\|inspirational tomb]] for Sulemaine. Traditionally such an honour has always been reserved for exemplars and paragons. In practical terms, [[Religious_crime#Blasphemy\|Imperial laws on blasphemy]] forbid "''promoting false virtues and the teachings of false exemplars or false paragons''" but the Imperial Synod have previously said that [[383YE_Summer_Solstice_Synod_judgements#Judgement_73\|she cannot be considered a false paragon]]. Provided they continue to hold that line then the Imperial magistrates won't have a case to prosecute.

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	It is not clear if it is even legal to create an [[Inspirational location\|inspirational tomb]] for Sulemaine. Traditionally such an honour has always been reserved for exemplars and paragons. In practical terms, [[Religious_crime#Blasphemy\|Imperial laws on blasphemy]] forbid "''promoting false virtues and the teachings of false exemplars or false paragons''" but the Imperial Synod have previously said that [[383YE_Summer_Solstice_Synod_judgements#Judgement_73\|she cannot be considered a false paragon]]. Provided they continue to hold that line then the Imperial magistrates won't have a case to prosecute.		It is not clear if it is even legal to create an [[Inspirational location\|inspirational tomb]] for Sulemaine. Traditionally such an honour has always been reserved for exemplars and paragons. In practical terms, [[Religious_crime#Blasphemy\|Imperial laws on blasphemy]] forbid "''promoting false virtues and the teachings of false exemplars or false paragons''" but the Imperial Synod have previously said that [[383YE_Summer_Solstice_Synod_judgements#Judgement_73\|she cannot be considered a false paragon]]. Provided they continue to hold that line then the Imperial magistrates won't have a case to prosecute.
	{{SOPInner\|statement=In the winter of 384YE our nation demonstrated our dedication to the restoration of Zenith to the Empire by constructing the Crucible of Fate in Iteri in a single season but we can climb higher still. I call upon the faithful of Urizen to Witness the Consecration of the Crucible of Fate to the virtue of Prosperity - to remind all who work there, and all who live in Zenith that no reward is beyond our reach if we strive for it. The Urizen national assembly calls upon the faithful to gather in Morrow and witness the consecration of the tomb of Sulemaine I Taziel to Wisdom by Herminius of the House of the Wanderer before proceeding together to Zenith to Iteri to witness the consecration of the Crucible of Fate to Prosperity by Bartimaeus of Zenith Ascendant.\|by=Able, Zenith Ascendant, Urizen ~~Assemblyt~~\|vote=Greater Majority 353-10\|when=Spring Equinox 385YE}}		{{SOPInner\|statement=In the winter of 384YE our nation demonstrated our dedication to the restoration of Zenith to the Empire by constructing the Crucible of Fate in Iteri in a single season but we can climb higher still. I call upon the faithful of Urizen to Witness the Consecration of the Crucible of Fate to the virtue of Prosperity - to remind all who work there, and all who live in Zenith that no reward is beyond our reach if we strive for it. The Urizen national assembly calls upon the faithful to gather in Morrow and witness the consecration of the tomb of Sulemaine I Taziel to Wisdom by Herminius of the House of the Wanderer before proceeding together to Zenith to Iteri to witness the consecration of the Crucible of Fate to Prosperity by Bartimaeus of Zenith Ascendant.\|by=Able, Zenith Ascendant, Urizen Assembly\|vote=Greater Majority 353-10\|when=Spring Equinox 385YE}}

	==Who Has The Right==		==Who Has The Right==

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	'''Elagabala''' has offered a mandate that if enacted would see the tomb of Sulemaine consecrated with an aura of Pride.		'''Elagabala''' has offered a mandate that if enacted would see the tomb of Sulemaine consecrated with an aura of Pride.

	{{Mandate\|mandate=The Sword-~~Saint~~ Sulemaine is the epitome of the Urizeni spirit. We send {named priest} with a dose of true liao to consecrate the tomb of Sulemaine Daughter of Taziel to Pride. May she encourage the people of Urizen to accept themselves wholeheartedly as Urizen, ever striving towards perfecting themselves and the nation, just as the Paragon of Blades did.\|assembly=Urizen National Assembly}}		{{Mandate\|mandate=The Sword-Scholar Sulemaine is the epitome of the Urizeni spirit. We send {named priest} with a dose of true liao to consecrate the tomb of Sulemaine Daughter of Taziel to Pride. May she encourage the people of Urizen to accept themselves wholeheartedly as Urizen, ever striving towards perfecting themselves and the nation, just as the Paragon of Blades did.\|assembly=Urizen National Assembly}}

	If enacted either of these mandates would have the effect stated above; statements of principle or mandates passed by the General Assembly, the Assembly of Nine or the Virtue Assemblies would never affect Urizen again.		If enacted either of these mandates would have the effect stated above; statements of principle or mandates passed by the General Assembly, the Assembly of Nine or the Virtue Assemblies would never affect Urizen again.

Twiggy at 21:06, 30 July 2025

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	'''Hazelelponi''' has offered an alternate mandate, using the [[Full_of_sacred_sound#Partner_of_Greatness\|Partners of Greatness]] power, to the Highguard National Assembly.		'''Hazelelponi''' has offered an alternate mandate, using the [[Full_of_sacred_sound#Partner_of_Greatness\|Partners of Greatness]] power, to the Highguard National Assembly.

	{{Mandate\|mandate=The Highborn Assembly sends {named priest} with 50 doses of liao to lead the Wayfarers and Pilgrims to Sulemaine’s Tomb. We embrace our past and acknowledge that the Sword Scholars once met Wayfarers with the blade. But now we see the commitment from Urizen in their assurance that ‘Sulemaine’s enemies are not our enemies’ (Judgement 47, Winter ~~389YE~~). They have not been complacent in their words and met our Grey Pilgrims with spiritual debate. Inspired by Sulemaine’s example, we will test what we’ve learnt and continue inspiring excellence in each other. As such, we have come to bear witness to Urizen’s decision and spread word of it through Highguard.\|assembly=Highborn National Assembly}}		{{Mandate\|mandate=The Highborn Assembly sends {named priest} with 50 doses of liao to lead the Wayfarers and Pilgrims to Sulemaine’s Tomb. We embrace our past and acknowledge that the Sword Scholars once met Wayfarers with the blade. But now we see the commitment from Urizen in their assurance that ‘Sulemaine’s enemies are not our enemies’ (Judgement 47, Winter 383YE). They have not been complacent in their words and met our Grey Pilgrims with spiritual debate. Inspired by Sulemaine’s example, we will test what we’ve learnt and continue inspiring excellence in each other. As such, we have come to bear witness to Urizen’s decision and spread word of it through Highguard.\|assembly=Highborn National Assembly}}

	If this mandate is passed it will ensure that everyone in [[Highguard]] will be aware that Urizen are venerating someone who is widely considered to be murderous villain in Highguard. It would likely result in a strongly negative response from the citizens of Highguard towards Urizen as a whole.		If this mandate is passed it will ensure that everyone in [[Highguard]] will be aware that Urizen are venerating someone who is widely considered to be murderous villain in Highguard. It would likely result in a strongly negative response from the citizens of Highguard towards Urizen as a whole.

Twiggy: /* Make Their Wills Their Law */

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Make Their Wills Their Law

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	The General Assembly of the Imperial Synod have limited ability to influence Urizen directly, partly because of the enduring opposition of the sword scholars. They could raise a statement of principle attempting to address the situation, but if the Urizen National Assembly choses to proceed with the consecration then it would be too late for any statement by the General Assembly, (or any other assembly) to intervene. Whether or not this consecration proceeds - and how - is now a matter for the Urizen Assembly and is beyond the ability of any other assembly to influence the support for that decision directly.		The General Assembly of the Imperial Synod have limited ability to influence Urizen directly, partly because of the enduring opposition of the sword scholars. They could raise a statement of principle attempting to address the situation, but if the Urizen National Assembly choses to proceed with the consecration then it would be too late for any statement by the General Assembly, (or any other assembly) to intervene. Whether or not this consecration proceeds - and how - is now a matter for the Urizen Assembly and is beyond the ability of any other assembly to influence the support for that decision directly.

	There are two steps ~~the~~ the Synod could take that would have a significant impact. They could reverse their earlier judgement and declare that Sulemaine is a false paragon. This would enable them to use a [[judgement]] of [[sanction]] to condemn as [[Religious_crime#Blasphemy\|blasphemy]], any attempt to use true liao to consecrate an inspirational tomb to someone the Synod has repeatedly said is not as an exemplar or paragon. That would mean any priests involved with the consecration would come to the attention of the Imperial magistrates who would try and investigate the act as a potential crime.		There are two steps the Synod could take that would have a significant impact. They could reverse their earlier judgement and declare that Sulemaine is a false paragon. This would enable them to use a [[judgement]] of [[sanction]] to condemn as [[Religious_crime#Blasphemy\|blasphemy]], any attempt to use true liao to consecrate an inspirational tomb to someone the Synod has repeatedly said is not as an exemplar or paragon. That would mean any priests involved with the consecration would come to the attention of the Imperial magistrates who would try and investigate the act as a potential crime.

	Whether that will stop anyone remains to be seen. It most certainly would not have stopped Sulemaine, daughter of Taziel.		Whether that will stop anyone remains to be seen. It most certainly would not have stopped Sulemaine, daughter of Taziel.

Twiggy at 23:33, 10 July 2025

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	However, while Sulemaine might not be well known in [[Wintermark]] or even her original home in [[the Brass Coast]], she is a pivotal figure in Urizen's history. Because of her singular status as a uniquely national figure - one who identified completely with the nation of Urizen and utterly rejected the Way - the Urizen National Assembly could chose to endorse an effective [[mandate]] to create an inspirational tomb for her if they so wish. With the backing of Urizen priests, such a site would see a regular stream of visitors, from the fanatical to the merely curious. Sulemaine's legacy would be preserved as permanently as the [[aura]] that supported it, inspiring a new generation of Urizen to take up the fight against the Imperial Synod.		However, while Sulemaine might not be well known in [[Wintermark]] or even her original home in [[the Brass Coast]], she is a pivotal figure in Urizen's history. Because of her singular status as a uniquely national figure - one who identified completely with the nation of Urizen and utterly rejected the Way - the Urizen National Assembly could chose to endorse an effective [[mandate]] to create an inspirational tomb for her if they so wish. With the backing of Urizen priests, such a site would see a regular stream of visitors, from the fanatical to the merely curious. Sulemaine's legacy would be preserved as permanently as the [[aura]] that supported it, inspiring a new generation of Urizen to take up the fight against the Imperial Synod.
	{{SOP\|statement=During the Spring ~~Solstice~~ 384YE I funded an excavation of caverns and ruins in Peregro, during our investigation of the site it was revealed that this was the final resting place of Sulemaine i Taziel. People of Urizen I call on you to witness and support my use of True Liao in permanently consecrating this cavern to Wisdom. Let it mark this site and Morrow as a place where dedicants of Wisdom through debate may test what they have learned and take that important next step on their path to Virtue. This is not all. For this season Urizen will be blessed with a second dose of True Liao. From Morrow I ask that you follow me on to Iteri in Zenith, to the site of the newly Constructed Crucible of Fate, to witness its concentration by Bartimeus of Zenith Ascendant.\|by=Herminius, House of the Wanderer, Urizen Assembly\|vote=Greater Majority 293-20\|when=Spring Equinox 385YE}}		{{SOP\|statement=During the Spring Equinox 384YE I funded an excavation of caverns and ruins in Peregro, during our investigation of the site it was revealed that this was the final resting place of Sulemaine i Taziel. People of Urizen I call on you to witness and support my use of True Liao in permanently consecrating this cavern to Wisdom. Let it mark this site and Morrow as a place where dedicants of Wisdom through debate may test what they have learned and take that important next step on their path to Virtue. This is not all. For this season Urizen will be blessed with a second dose of True Liao. From Morrow I ask that you follow me on to Iteri in Zenith, to the site of the newly Constructed Crucible of Fate, to witness its concentration by Bartimeus of Zenith Ascendant.\|by=Herminius, House of the Wanderer, Urizen Assembly\|vote=Greater Majority 293-20\|when=Spring Equinox 385YE}}
	==Where The Body Lies==		==Where The Body Lies==
	* '''Creating an inspirational tomb for Sulemaine means no statement of principle or mandate from the General Assembly, the Assembly of Nine, or the Virtue Assemblies will affect Urizen ever again'''		* '''Creating an inspirational tomb for Sulemaine means no statement of principle or mandate from the General Assembly, the Assembly of Nine, or the Virtue Assemblies will affect Urizen ever again'''

Matt: /* Interred With Their Bones */

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	{{Mandate\|mandate=Tolerance is the crack in the foundation of a strong society. We send {named priest} with a dose of true liao to consecrate the tomb of the Paragon of Blades to the virtue of inviolate perfection to remind Urizen that mercy is weakness. To be without mercy is to be without limits.\|assembly=Urizen National Assembly}}		{{Mandate\|mandate=Tolerance is the crack in the foundation of a strong society. We send {named priest} with a dose of true liao to consecrate the tomb of the Paragon of Blades to the virtue of inviolate perfection to remind Urizen that mercy is weakness. To be without mercy is to be without limits.\|assembly=Urizen National Assembly}}

	If this mandate is enacted it will remind every Urizen that Sulemaine was first and foremost a warrior who fought for the things she believed in - and who opposed every threat to Urizen with ruthless force. She taught her followers that mercy was a weakness and pity an illusion. Modern sword scholars have largely set aside Sulemaine's methods, preferring to focus on the way she would challenge and debate those she encountered to test the Wisdom of their beliefs. Consecrating the tomb to hate would remind everyone of the less savoury elements of Sulemaine's personal history: that she did much more than just challenge priests to defend their views, she challenged them to defend their lives. Her followers would be reminded of her ferocious commitment to [[arete]] in battle and the will to use it against any threat no matter ~~how~~ its nature.		If this mandate is enacted it will remind every Urizen that Sulemaine was first and foremost a warrior who fought for the things she believed in - and who opposed every threat to Urizen with ruthless force. She taught her followers that mercy was a weakness and pity an illusion. Modern sword scholars have largely set aside Sulemaine's methods, preferring to focus on the way she would challenge and debate those she encountered to test the Wisdom of their beliefs. Consecrating the tomb to hate would remind everyone of the less savoury elements of Sulemaine's personal history: that she did much more than just challenge priests to defend their views, she challenged them to defend their lives. Her followers would be reminded of her ferocious commitment to [[arete]] in battle and the will to use it against any threat no matter its nature.

	The nation would see a flowering of independent thinking, a rejection of the benefits of the union with the Empire with sword scholars pointing to Sulemaine's uncompromising hostility for any outside influence. Those who meditated at the tomb would feel driven to ensure that Urizen sought a new future, one free of the constraints and limitations imposed by other nations. People would be motivated to take up the sword, just as Sulemaine did, and seek to combat any force that seeks to hold the nation back. Peaceful discussion will be discarded in favour of armed opposition as each individual seeks to confront the challenges facing the nation and strive to keep it pure.		The nation would see a flowering of independent thinking, a rejection of the benefits of the union with the Empire with sword scholars pointing to Sulemaine's uncompromising hostility for any outside influence. Those who meditated at the tomb would feel driven to ensure that Urizen sought a new future, one free of the constraints and limitations imposed by other nations. People would be motivated to take up the sword, just as Sulemaine did, and seek to combat any force that seeks to hold the nation back. Peaceful discussion will be discarded in favour of armed opposition as each individual seeks to confront the challenges facing the nation and strive to keep it pure.

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Many Steps on The Way

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	Others scholars have claimed that it was [[Pride]] that drove Sulemaine to oppose the Way, saying it was the love of Urizen and it's traditions that make her an inspiring figure. That a woman born on the Brass Coast might prize Urizen so highly could only happen because of the Pride she felt in her adoptive homeland. She proclaimed her commitment to her arete in every debate and duel she took part in. She executed those she defeated because she despised the half-hearted, those who pretend to a great wisdom they do not possess.		Others scholars have claimed that it was [[Pride]] that drove Sulemaine to oppose the Way, saying it was the love of Urizen and it's traditions that make her an inspiring figure. That a woman born on the Brass Coast might prize Urizen so highly could only happen because of the Pride she felt in her adoptive homeland. She proclaimed her commitment to her arete in every debate and duel she took part in. She executed those she defeated because she despised the half-hearted, those who pretend to a great wisdom they do not possess.

	The tomb could also be consecrated to [[Ambition]]. That Sulemaine ultimately failed to prevent the Highborn bringing the Way to Urizen, is a testament to how extraordinary the challenge facing her was. She tried to fell the forest one tree at a time, seeking to stop the missionaries by opposing personally. She understood it was better to try and fail than not to try at all and it is eminently clear from her writings that she never wavered in the belief that her goal was beyond her grasp.		The tomb could also be consecrated to [[Ambition]]. That Sulemaine ultimately failed to prevent the Highborn bringing the Way to Urizen, is a testament to how extraordinary the challenge facing her was. She tried to fell the forest one tree at a time, seeking to stop the missionaries by opposing them personally. She understood it was better to try and fail than not to try at all and it is eminently clear from her writings that she never wavered in the belief that her goal was beyond her grasp.

	Any Urizen priest could submit an alternative mandate calling on the Urizen Assembly to consecrate the tomb to one of these four virtues. If that mandate passed with a greater majority then it would have a significant effect. In each case Urizen would be permanently shifted beyond the Synod's influence as [[#Where_The_Body_Lies\|outlined above]]. In addition, the civil service prognosticators are confident that there would be the additional effects comparable with the benefits outlined for Wisdom above, but they cannot be certain exactly what they would be.		Any Urizen priest could submit an alternative mandate calling on the Urizen Assembly to consecrate the tomb to one of these four virtues. If that mandate passed with a greater majority then it would have a significant effect. In each case Urizen would be permanently shifted beyond the Synod's influence as [[#Where_The_Body_Lies\|outlined above]]. In addition, the civil service prognosticators are confident that there would be the additional effects comparable with the benefits outlined for Wisdom above, but they cannot be certain exactly what they would be.

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	Recent developments have seen [[Return_of_the_sword_scholars\|Sulemaine's legacy reconciled with the nation]], but she remains deeply controversial. She was a crucial figure in Urizen's pre-Imperial history, achieving notoriety for her direct confrontation of [[Highguard\|Highborn]] missionaries who tried to spread the Way in Urizen. She denounced and executed any whose beliefs she considered insufficiently grounded in reason and logic and she became an inspiration to many. In the decades following her death, the sword scholars grudgingly adopted the virtues but they remained fiercely opposed the Way.		Recent developments have seen [[Return_of_the_sword_scholars\|Sulemaine's legacy reconciled with the nation]], but she remains deeply controversial. She was a crucial figure in Urizen's pre-Imperial history, achieving notoriety for her direct confrontation of [[Highguard\|Highborn]] missionaries who tried to spread the Way in Urizen. She denounced and executed any whose beliefs she considered insufficiently grounded in reason and logic and she became an inspiration to many. In the decades following her death, the sword scholars grudgingly adopted the virtues but they remained fiercely opposed the Way.

	The [[~~Imperial~~ Synod]] has repeatedly refused to [[recognition\|recognise]] Sulemaine as an [[Paragons and exemplars\|exemplar or paragon]], so there is no single cardinal virtue with which she is associated. Many of the [[Sword scholar\|sword scholars]], associate her with [[Wisdom]] and that is the virtue that Able has announced but a number of her current disciples cling to other beliefs. Arguments can be made for [[Ambition]], [[Courage]], [[Pride]], or [[Vigilance]] perhaps but there are followers of the first sword scholar who espouse [[Malign_spiritual_presences#Hatred\|other paths]].		The [[Synod]] has repeatedly refused to [[recognition\|recognise]] Sulemaine as an [[Paragons and exemplars\|exemplar or paragon]], so there is no single cardinal virtue with which she is associated. Many of the [[Sword scholar\|sword scholars]], associate her with [[Wisdom]] and that is the virtue that Able has announced but a number of her current disciples cling to other beliefs. Arguments can be made for [[Ambition]], [[Courage]], [[Pride]], or [[Vigilance]] perhaps but there are followers of the first sword scholar who espouse [[Malign_spiritual_presences#Hatred\|other paths]].

	It is not clear if it is even legal to create an [[Inspirational location\|inspirational tomb]] for Sulemaine. Traditionally such an honour has always been reserved for exemplars and paragons. In practical terms, [[Religious_crime#Blasphemy\|Imperial laws on blasphemy]] forbid "''promoting false virtues and the teachings of false exemplars or false paragons''" but the Imperial Synod have previously said that [[383YE_Summer_Solstice_Synod_judgements#Judgement_73\|she cannot be considered a false paragon]]. Provided they continue to hold that line then the Imperial magistrates won't have a case to prosecute.		It is not clear if it is even legal to create an [[Inspirational location\|inspirational tomb]] for Sulemaine. Traditionally such an honour has always been reserved for exemplars and paragons. In practical terms, [[Religious_crime#Blasphemy\|Imperial laws on blasphemy]] forbid "''promoting false virtues and the teachings of false exemplars or false paragons''" but the Imperial Synod have previously said that [[383YE_Summer_Solstice_Synod_judgements#Judgement_73\|she cannot be considered a false paragon]]. Provided they continue to hold that line then the Imperial magistrates won't have a case to prosecute.