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* Without the title "Grimnir of Wittal Grove" and a commitment that "" the title ... is intended specifically to be held by a grimnir", this commission does not receive the support of the grimnir of Wintermark.
* Without the title "Grimnir of Wittal Grove" and a commitment that "" the title ... is intended specifically to be held by a grimnir", this commission does not receive the support of the grimnir of Wintermark.
* Without the support of the Grimnir of Wintermark, the Healing House would require a commission slot from the Senate which was not available when the motion was raised.
* Without the support of the Grimnir of Wintermark, the Healing House would require a commission slot from the Senate which was not available when the motion was raised.
* The civil service is keen to hear from the Senator for Kallavesa who raised the motion to clarify the situation. If they are not able to do so, the commission cannot go ahead in it's current form. ('''OOC Note:''' The Senator for Kallavesa should e-mail [mailto:admin@profounddecisions.co.uk admin@profounddecisions.co.uk] to let us know what their intention was).
* The civil service is keen to hear from the Senator for Kallavesa who raised the motion to clarify the situation. If they are not able to do so, the commission cannot go ahead in it's current form. ('''OOC Note:''' The Senator for Kallavesa should e-mail [mailto:admin@profounddecisions.co.uk plot@profounddecisions.co.uk] to let us know what their intention was).
* If the senator ''does''  confirm that the intent was for the motion to include the title along with the supplementary conditions, then the commission will go ahead but an [[administrative motion]] will be raised to allow the Senate to abrogate the title. This will require a commission slot from Spring 384YE as the commission will lose the support of the grimnir at that point.
* If the senator ''does''  confirm that the intent was for the motion to include the title along with the supplementary conditions, then the commission will go ahead but an [[administrative motion]] will be raised to allow the Senate to abrogate the title. This will require a commission slot from Spring 384YE as the commission will lose the support of the grimnir at that point.
* The constitutional court notes that this convoluted approach is being put forward as a consequence of the [[problems caused by memory altering mists]], and urges all Senators to ensure they have included vital details on their Senate motion in future.
* The constitutional court notes that this convoluted approach is being put forward as a consequence of the [[problems caused by memory altering mists]], and urges all Senators to ensure they have included vital details on their Senate motion in future.

Revision as of 13:21, 16 May 2022


To permit the build of a great work, Healing House of Wittal Grove in Wittal, Kallavesa, to benefit herb garden owners.


Costs: 56 wains of weirwood and 14 thrones in labour

Proposed by Kallavesa, Seconded by Mitwold

Overview

Date

  • Winter 383YE

Cost

  • Non-standard costs apply
  • 56 wains of weirwood
  • 14 thrones in labour costs
  • 7 thrones and 28 wains of weirwood provided by Vauraus Korppitkotka after Spring Equinox 384YE
  • 7 thrones and 28 wains of weirwood provided by Rane Shardbearer after Spring Equinox 384YE

Outcome

  • 328 thrones disbursed to the Senator for Kallavesa
  • Once completed the great work will provide a shared bounty to all herb gardens in Kallavesa
  • There are constitutional issues with this commission

Constitution

  • The opportunity presented an option to create an Imperial title to oversee the Healing House. This was not presented as part of the Senate Motion.
  • Without the title "Grimnir of Wittal Grove" and a commitment that "" the title ... is intended specifically to be held by a grimnir", this commission does not receive the support of the grimnir of Wintermark.
  • Without the support of the Grimnir of Wintermark, the Healing House would require a commission slot from the Senate which was not available when the motion was raised.
  • The civil service is keen to hear from the Senator for Kallavesa who raised the motion to clarify the situation. If they are not able to do so, the commission cannot go ahead in it's current form. (OOC Note: The Senator for Kallavesa should e-mail plot@profounddecisions.co.uk to let us know what their intention was).
  • If the senator does confirm that the intent was for the motion to include the title along with the supplementary conditions, then the commission will go ahead but an administrative motion will be raised to allow the Senate to abrogate the title. This will require a commission slot from Spring 384YE as the commission will lose the support of the grimnir at that point.
  • The constitutional court notes that this convoluted approach is being put forward as a consequence of the problems caused by memory altering mists, and urges all Senators to ensure they have included vital details on their Senate motion in future.